Yeah, they do retransmit them over the satellite as well, so most of the
locals actually show up in the list twice.

On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 5:53 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

> Can you get locals without the external antenna?
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 4:49 PM
> *To:* af <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup
>
> My Dish Network box does that... there's a built in OTA receiver in the
> STB, and other than program information being missing for some of the sub
> channels, you don't really notice whether the channel is coming from
> satellite or OTA.
>
> On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 4:57 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Used to be there were must carry rules for locals.  Now it is reversed.
>> I have seen these disputes many times over the past 10-15 years.
>>
>> I wonder about the economics of building an OTA circuit into the STB.
>> Have the installer put up an antenna, wire it up and don’t pay the
>> broadcasters.  If it was clever enough the user would not even know.
>> Include the locals in the OSD and DVR functionality...  Hmmm, would work
>> for IPTV systems too...
>>
>> Of course everyone cannot always receive all the local OTAs but most
>> could.  I wonder if you could pay the broadcasters only for the customers
>> that needed cable/IPTV deliver of the signal...  I guess you could create a
>> non locals tier of service and try to put as many on it as possible.
>>
>> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, February 06, 2016 3:16 PM
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cox pulls KASW from it's lineup
>>
>>
>> KASW is a local channel in the Phoenix area.  Apparently there is a
>> dispute over the cost of rebroadcasting this local channel when renewing
>> the contract.  The reason that it’s interesting is they replaced the entire
>> show with an explanation of how local channels get to charge for something
>> the broadcast over the air for free.  It looks like they are going on the
>> offensive and something we need to be aware of it if we start looking at
>> broadcasting IP TV.
>>
>>
>>
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