Does it matter?  Once it has lock with 4+ satellites I would think it's all
the same.

My Cambium AP and Packetflux gear boots and get's GPS within seconds, not
minutes or hours.


Josh Luthman
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On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 12:29 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:

> you guys are comparing a cell phone which uses gps and cellular and wifi
> triangulation to a highly accurate GPS used for timing purposes
>
> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:39 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> cell booster or gps booster?
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read the
>>> satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android).  We had
>>> to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the damn
>>> thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was working
>>> in rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the
>>> windows were closed.  Building management didn't even know they'd purchased
>>> the windows with RF film.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>
>>>
>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location.  If they use the
>>> 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start
>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>>>
>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too.  Pisses me off if I ever have to reset
>>> the power.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>
>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these don't
>>> seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively long time
>>> to get a lock.
>>>
>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately,
>>>> from inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will pick up
>>>> 6 satellites while  standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window.
>>>> Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>>>
>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or
>>>> something like that.
>>>>
>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to tiny
>>>> channel size and very basic modulation.
>>>> On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <
>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail if
>>>>> the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where the
>>>>> customer address is.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the user
>>>>> guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents a VPN?
>>>>> �
>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.�
>>>>> WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A address?�
>>>>> Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall
>>>>> (which I don't manage).
>>>>> �
>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means
>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>
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