I prefer Heliax....I use LMR for pigtails but rarely....we also use Andrew superflex.... On Feb 10, 2016 5:16 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is > much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per > frequency range. > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Andrew 1/2 Heliax >> On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >>> That's most helpful! Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was? >>> I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N Connector >>>> and ran LMR to the roof. Hope that helps. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network SupportPlexicomm - Internet Solutions | >>>> www.plexicomm.net <http://www.plexicomm.net>* >>>> *Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax: >>>> 1.866.852.4688 <1.866.852.4688>* >>>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 <1.866.759.9713> | >>>> sam...@plexicomm.net <sam...@plexicomm.net>* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" >>>> >>>> >>>> It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that >>>> if you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that it >>>> won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in >>>> normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one >>>> issue. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in >>>>> diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge. >>>>> >>>>> bp >>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>> >>>>> MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX? >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector >>>>>> (don't recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a wire >>>>>> on the end of the coax, and you're there. >>>>>> >>>>>> bp >>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I >>>>>>> was dealing with. We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> the basement to get the damn thing to sync properly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and >>>>>>> this is a very newly renovated building. Will keep that in mind! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support >>>>>>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions >>>>>>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <sam...@plexicomm.net>sam...@plexicomm.net | Emergency Support: >>>>>>> 1.866.759.9713 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com> >>>>>>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> cell booster or gps booster? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jaime Solorza >>>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect >>>>>>> 915-861-1390 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually >>>>>>>> read the satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on >>>>>>>> Android). >>>>>>>> We had to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> damn thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was >>>>>>>> working in rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms >>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>> the windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd >>>>>>>> purchased the windows with RF film. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network SupportPlexicomm - Internet Solutions | >>>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net/>www.plexicomm.net >>>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net/>* >>>>>>>> *Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688* >>>>>>>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 | <sam...@plexicomm.net> >>>>>>>> <sam...@plexicomm.net>sam...@plexicomm.net <sam...@plexicomm.net>* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------ >>>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" < <dmmoff...@gmail.com>dmmoff...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com >>>>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender" >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use >>>>>>>> the 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start >>>>>>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to >>>>>>>> reset the power. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these >>>>>>>> don't seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively >>>>>>>> long >>>>>>>> time to get a lock. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very >>>>>>>>> accurately, from inside a single floor wood framed house... My >>>>>>>>> oneplus one >>>>>>>>> will pick up 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ >>>>>>>>> from any >>>>>>>>> window. Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or >>>>>>>>> something like that. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to >>>>>>>>> tiny channel size and very basic modulation. >>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" < >>>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also >>>>>>>>>> fail if the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of >>>>>>>>>> where >>>>>>>>>> the customer address is. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> bp >>>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the >>>>>>>>>> user guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that >>>>>>>>>> prevents a >>>>>>>>>> VPN? >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A >>>>>>>>>> address.� WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A >>>>>>>>>> address?� Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind >>>>>>>>>> Cisco ASA >>>>>>>>>> firewall (which I don't manage). >>>>>>>>>> � >>>>>>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means >>>>>>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>
