Used the included antenna and pointed it at the one Verizon site we have
around here.  An omni would have been better for my application, I think.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:39 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I have two wilson systems, one at my house, one at my shop  and they both
> work great.  You have to make sure to have a good outdoor antenna and have
> it aimed at the proper cell site.
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 9:29 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>
> I tried a Wilson and a handful of others.  None of them worked.  Complete
> waste of time.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Very different system Josh…
>>
>>
>>
>> Look at something like this for residential type systems:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.smoothtalker.com/cellular-signal-boosters/building/stealthz1/bbuz160gbo/
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> afmu...@gmail.com
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter
>> <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 11, 2016 7:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>>
>>
>> Pretty sure I was quoted $800...
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 11, 2016 9:41 AM, "Daniel White" <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> For that price you can purchase a cell booster that stays off your
>> network altogether and will help with any cell carrier in range.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
>>
>> Daniel White
>>
>> afmu...@gmail.com
>>
>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590>
>>
>> Skype: danieldwhite
>> Social: LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/in/danielwhite84>: Twitter
>> <https://twitter.com/DanielWhite84>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 10, 2016 7:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>>
>>
>> It's $250 new :P
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 10, 2016 8:05 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Are we still talking about a GPS cable for a $100 femtocell??!?
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/10/2016 4:16 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
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>> Dude, don't do that. LMR600. We buy it by the thousands of feet. It is
>> much easier to run, less prone to damage, and equivalent in loss per
>> frequency range.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:09 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Andrew 1/2  Heliax
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>> On Feb 10, 2016 2:33 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> That's most helpful!  Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was?
>> I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N Connector
>> and ran LMR to the roof.  Hope that helps.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support*
>>
>> *Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net
>> <http://www.plexicomm.net>Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109
>> <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 <1.866.852.4688>*
>>
>> *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 <1.866.759.9713> |
>> sam...@plexicomm.net <sam...@plexicomm.net>*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>>
>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>>
>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>>
>>
>> It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that if
>> you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that it
>> won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in
>> normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one
>> issue.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in
>> diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector (don't
>> recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a wire on the
>> end of the coax, and you're there.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>>
>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I was
>> dealing with.  We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down to the
>> basement to get the damn thing to sync properly.
>>
>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and this
>> is a very newly renovated building.  Will keep that in mind!
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support
>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions
>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688
>>
>> sam...@plexicomm.net | Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com>
>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>> cell booster or gps booster?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read the
>> satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android). We had to
>> install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the damn thing
>> wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was working in
>> rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the
>> windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd purchased
>> the windows with RF film.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network Support*
>>
>> *Plexicomm - Internet Solutions | www.plexicomm.net
>> <http://www.plexicomm.net>Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109
>> <1.866.759.4678%20x109> | Fax: 1.866.852.4688 <1.866.852.4688>*
>>
>>   *Emergency Support: 1.866.759.9713 <1.866.759.9713> |
>> sam...@plexicomm.net <sam...@plexicomm.net>*
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>>
>> From: "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>>
>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>>
>>
>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use the
>> 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start
>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>>
>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to reset the
>> power.
>>
>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>
>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these don't
>> seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively long time
>> to get a lock.
>>
>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately, from
>> inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will pick up 6
>> satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window. Should
>> be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>
>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or
>> something like that.
>>
>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to tiny
>> channel size and very basic modulation.
>>
>> On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','
>> part15...@gmail.com');> wrote:
>>
>> Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail if the
>> GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where the customer
>> address is.
>>
>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the user
>> guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents a VPN?
>>
>> �
>>
>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.�
>> WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A address?� Customer
>> uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall (which I
>> don't manage).
>>
>> �
>>
>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means something
>> is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
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