Awesome sauce.  Thanks!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Feb 11, 2016 11:13 AM, "Sam Kirsch" <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:

> Looks like we used LMR400.
>
>
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> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: 2/10/2016 4:33:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>
>
> That's most helpful!  Do you have any idea what kind of cable that was?
> I'm assuming anything that will handle 1600 MHz with minimal loss will work?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 4:27 PM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I spoke to my field guy, he said they took an SMB <-> N Connector
>> and ran LMR to the roof.  Hope that helps.
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:42:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>
>>
>> It's an SMB connector, but again I find it really had to believe that if
>> you stick it outside until you get a good sync and power it down that it
>> won't resync indoors, I've never tried inside of a nuclear bunker, but in
>> normal houses and offices with tile and metal roofs I've never had one
>> issue.
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 6:39 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah. Something like that. All I recall is it was ~~ 1/4" or so in
>>> diameter. Don't quote me on that. I am disavowing all knowledge.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/9/2016 6:37 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>> MCM as in MMC? Like MMCX?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Feb 9, 2016 9:34 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Verizon cell extender (made by Samsung) has a little connector
>>>> (don't recall the type, but it's about the size of MCM or so). Put a wire
>>>> on the end of the coax, and you're there.
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/9/2016 10:33 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>
>>>> How did you get a GPS antenna from the roof to the SCS box?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 1:28 PM, samuel <sam...@plexicomm.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Verizon's Samsung SCS series 3G and 4G Network Extender is what I was
>>>>> dealing with.  We had to run our own GPS antenna from the roof down to the
>>>>> basement to get the damn thing to sync properly.
>>>>>
>>>>> As an aside, I didn't realize the Low E windows were code now, and
>>>>> this is a very newly renovated building.  Will keep that in mind!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- Sam Kirsch, Network Tech Support
>>>>> Plexicomm Internet Solutions
>>>>> Office: 1.866.759.4678 x109 | Fax: 1.866.852.4688
>>>>>
>>>>> <sam...@plexicomm.net>sam...@plexicomm.net | Emergency Support:
>>>>> 1.866.759.9713
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: "Jaime Solorza" < <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Animal Farm" < <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com>
>>>>> Date: 02/09/16 10:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>
>>>>> cell booster or gps booster?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Sam Kirsch <sam...@plexicomm.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pull out a GPS App on your phone and make sure you can actually read
>>>>>> the satellites from behind the window (I used 'GPS Test' on Android). We
>>>>>> had to install one of these boosters and were troubleshooting why the 
>>>>>> damn
>>>>>> thing wasn't working when I noticed that my phone GPS receiver was 
>>>>>> working
>>>>>> in rooms where the windows were open and not working in rooms where the
>>>>>> windows were closed. Building management didn't even know they'd 
>>>>>> purchased
>>>>>> the windows with RF film.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *-- Samuel Kirsch, Network SupportPlexicomm - Internet Solutions |
>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net/>http://www.plexicomm.net/
>>>>>> <http://www.plexicomm.net/>*
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------ Original Message ------
>>>>>> From: "Adam Moffett" < <dmmoff...@gmail.com>dmmoff...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>> Sent: 2/9/2016 9:50:42 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Verizon "network extender"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might not be just a matter of getting the location. If they use
>>>>>> the 1pps clock from GPS to calibrate an oscillator before they start
>>>>>> transmitting, then it would legitimately take 20-30 minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Telrad BTS's are like that too. Pisses me off if I ever have to reset
>>>>>> the power.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/9/2016 12:12 AM, Jason McKemie wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For whatever reason, the receivers that they use in some of these
>>>>>> don't seem to be "modern" at all. They frequently take an excessively 
>>>>>> long
>>>>>> time to get a lock.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Monday, February 8, 2016, Eric Kuhnke < <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Modern GPS receivers work surprisingly well, if not very accurately,
>>>>>>> from inside a single floor wood framed house... My oneplus one will 
>>>>>>> pick up
>>>>>>> 6 satellites while standing in a central hallway 15'+ from any window.
>>>>>>> Should be accurate enough to get a location within 75'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All bets are off if it is a concrete framed apartment building or
>>>>>>> something like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I still find it amazing that anything works at -162 RSL. Thanks to
>>>>>>> tiny channel size and very basic modulation.
>>>>>>>  On Feb 8, 2016 6:46 PM, "Bill Prince" <
>>>>>>> javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','part15...@gmail.com');> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Canopy NAT seems to break it with regularity. It might also fail
>>>>>>>> if the GPS location that it reports is not within a 1/4 mile of where 
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> customer address is.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Also requires enough GPS (like near a window) to get a GPS lock.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bp
>>>>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/8/2016 3:34 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What are the typical reasons for these not to work?� From the
>>>>>>>> user guide it appears to use IPSEC, so I assume anything that prevents 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>> VPN?
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> Verizon support told the customer they needed a Class A address.�
>>>>>>>> WTF?� Did they maybe mean it *can't* be a class A address?�
>>>>>>>> Customer uses 10.x.x.x addresses internally, behind Cisco ASA firewall
>>>>>>>> (which I don't manage).
>>>>>>>> �
>>>>>>>> I do see some udp/500 and udp/4500 packets, I think that means
>>>>>>>> something is using UDP for IPSEC NAT traversal?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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