I am with Chuck.  If you have that kind of bandwidth needs than you have the 
money and need for a license link.  Ill use a license link on a 40 custmer 
tower just so i dont have to ever worry about backhaul issues.  My time is 
valuable and i enjoy my sleep. :)

Craig schmaderer
Skywave Wireless, Inc.




On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 12:56 PM -0800, "Eric Kuhnke" 
<eric.kuh...@gmail.com<mailto:eric.kuh...@gmail.com>> wrote:


This seems to be the curse of ubnt.

Making changes to something like management IP or timezone, clock, whatever 
should not reboot a radio.

It is somewhat forgiveable on a $499 radio buy not on a $6000 link.

All proper part101 radios have the management interface separated from the 
traffic pipe.

So, lesson, get your ubnt set up right the first time, or learn to enjoy 
maintenance windows at 0200 on Tuesday mornings.

On Mar 1, 2016 7:34 AM, "Stefan Englhardt" 
<s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
Yes. Under very good conditions 1024 QAM is possible with AF5X. With Back2Back 
Sync we’ve to play with power levels of the
remote sides to keep modulations up.

AF5X is a very good radio. First 5GHz Radio better than PTP600 imho. And it 
takes only 10W compared to the 50W of a PTP600.
The SW is not as good. Every change gives a reboot.




Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag 
von Josh Luthman
Gesendet: Dienstag, 1. März 2016 15:34
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

I want to say the old Blackberries could do 64QAM (802.11n)?

AF5x can do 1024QAM - that's just AMAZING!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:

LOL I wouldn't have said "kind of crap", but sure, the AF24 is 64QAM.

The AF24HD is 256QAM.
On Mar 1, 2016 8:27 AM, "Josh Luthman" 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
Probably added another modulation on top.  Old one was kind of crap, wasn't it? 
 64QAM?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Steve Utick 
<sut...@gmail.com<mailto:sut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
However, the HD is also gigabit full duplex as well, whereas the 24 is only 700 
Meg full duplex.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 7:17 AM, Josh Baird 
<joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Yeah, the price tag on the 'HD' is steeeeeeep.

On Tue, Mar 1, 2016 at 9:15 AM, Joe Novak 
<jno...@lrcomm.com<mailto:jno...@lrcomm.com>> wrote:
Apologies, I had no idea the AF24HD was going for 6k a link, wow! Looking 
back.. it does look like the AF24 is still 3k per link, which I for some reason 
thought the AF24HD would be more cost competitive. Mimosa's links are in a 
great spot... I think the promise was sometime this month.

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 9:03 PM, Erich Kaiser 
<er...@northcentraltower.com<mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>> wrote:
Same with Cambium PTP820S


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com<mailto:er...@northcentraltower.com>
Office: 630-621-4804<tel:630-621-4804>
Cell: 630-777-9291<tel:630-777-9291>


On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 6:58 PM, Chris Wright 
<ch...@velociter.net<mailto:ch...@velociter.net>> wrote:
The trick is getting Mimosa to actually ship them. >.>

Chris Wright
Network Administrator
Velociter Wireless
209-838-1221 x115<tel:209-838-1221%20x115>

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf 
Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 11:22 AM
To: af
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

A Mimosa B11 link can be done for about the same cost as AF24HD...

On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
I would do licensed.  11 or 18 GHz.  Then you save the spectrum and have 
something that works all the time.  That that much more money.  If you are 
maxing out APs then you have the customers to pay for the licensed BH.

From: Adam Moffett<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 9:25 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF 24 HD Real World Range?

More than 1.5 to maybe 2 miles at 24ghz is nuts.
...but it depends how much rain you get.
On 2/29/2016 11:23 AM, Sam Lambie wrote:
Hey all,
I have a PTP 450 link at 6.937 miles that is working fine with 3 access points. 
But we want to install another 450 AP and I am loathe to use it as will 
saturate the link in no time.
Looking to save the 5ghz spectrum for our AP's, I am thinking of the AF24HD. 
Has anyone installed a link that far? Does it work well? I don't need the full 
2 gigs. More like 300 would be more than enough for quite a while.
Sam

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Sam Lambie
Taosnet Wireless Tech.
575-758-7598<tel:575-758-7598> Office
www.Taosnet.com<http://www.newmex.com>








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