I don't think people prefer a liar, they prefer someone who tells them what
they want to hear. As it turns out, that is the same thing as lying. I
really thought Carly Fiorina was the most sensible and qualified non
politician. Maybe that is why she couldn't get any traction. Mitt Romney
should have waited till this year to run. To bad he wasn't as fired up to
win last time as he is to run down Trump this time.

On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 9:41 PM That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Haha, Was anybody listening to the livestream from the idiots in oregon
> the night before they turned themselves in finally? Pedro hijacked the
> stream
>
> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> vote for Pedro
>>
>> Sent from Outlook Mobile <https://aka.ms/qtex0l>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2016 at 1:48 PM -0800, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The whole field gags me.  There is nobody to vote for this year.
>>>
>>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 05, 2016 11:37 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] anyone watching the debates
>>>
>>> I'm still looking for that garage.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/4/2016 12:42 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>>>
>>> i was harmed by your statements and will need reparations
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I didn't ask anyone to believe what I believe, I encouraged people to
>>>> check out specific facts for themselves. Stating my personal opinions
>>>> has no bearing on previous or current documented behavior by any
>>>> candidate or group of candidates.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Cameron Crum < <cc...@wispmon.com>
>>>> cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>>>> > No, you are just repeating the opposition's talking points about each
>>>> > one...something you asked everyone not to believe about the guy you
>>>> support.
>>>> >
>>>> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 2:00 PM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>> <j...@kyneticwifi.com>j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Not once did I mention truth or untruth about their stances or
>>>> records
>>>> >> other than Sanders, simply my feelings which are relative.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 1:48 PM, Cameron Crum < <cc...@wispmon.com>
>>>> cc...@wispmon.com> wrote:
>>>> >> > Josh writes:
>>>> >> > "Fact check it for yourself here, don't just listen to talking
>>>> points:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/66/veterans
>>>> >> > "
>>>> >> > but then goes on the ad-hominem attack with :
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > " Trump is a clown,
>>>> >> > Cruz is a sociopath, Rubio is a weakling, Carson is a brilliant
>>>> brain
>>>> >> > surgeon who has written many groundbreaking papers in his field
>>>> but is
>>>> >> > kind of an idiot outside of his niche. Sanders may want to go too
>>>> far,
>>>> >> > and Clinton is - simply scary."
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Pot, meet kettle.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:58 AM, Josh Reynolds <
>>>> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> You mean countries like...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Denmark
>>>> >> >> Finland
>>>> >> >> Netherlands
>>>> >> >> Canada
>>>> >> >> Sweden
>>>> >> >> Norway
>>>> >> >> Ireland
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> ?
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Countries with some of the highest levels of education,
>>>> healthcare,
>>>> >> >> standard of living, low crime rates, and longest life
>>>> expectancies?
>>>> >> >> The REPUBLIC of the United States has, since inception, been a
>>>> mix of
>>>> >> >> many different types government policies. Hell a lot of the
>>>> things FDR
>>>> >> >> did were VERY socialist, and they worked very well in the United
>>>> >> >> States.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> You pick between things that can work on an individual basis.
>>>> Throwing
>>>> >> >> the baby out with the bathwater is foolish. Making the future of
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> country a Democratic vs Republican issue is also foolish. The FBI
>>>> >> >> needs to finish their investigation of Clinton quickly and do the
>>>> >> >> right thing (whatever that may be). Her as well as the American
>>>> people
>>>> >> >> deserve this thing to be over one way or the other. Trump is a
>>>> clown,
>>>> >> >> Cruz is a sociopath, Rubio is a weakling, Carson is a brilliant
>>>> brain
>>>> >> >> surgeon who has written many groundbreaking papers in his field
>>>> but is
>>>> >> >> kind of an idiot outside of his niche. Sanders may want to go too
>>>> far,
>>>> >> >> and Clinton is - simply scary.
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> For those of us riding the middle ground here, this is all a "shit
>>>> >> >> sandwich" (technical term)
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Rory Conaway <
>>>> r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> > Josh, the problem with Bernie is we do trust him. We trust him
>>>> to
>>>> >> >> > bring
>>>> >> >> > back socialism.  Based on what happens to every socialist
>>>> country,
>>>> >> >> > especially Venezuela, Russia, Greece, Spain, etc...  I'm not
>>>> inclined
>>>> >> >> > to
>>>> >> >> > vote for a guy that is going to make me stand in line for toilet
>>>> >> >> > paper.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Rory
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> >> > From: Af [mailto: <af-boun...@afmug.com>af-boun...@afmug.com]
>>>> On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
>>>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 9:29 AM
>>>> >> >> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone watching the debates
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Fact check it for yourself here, don't just listen to talking
>>>> points:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/27110/bernie-sanders/66/veterans
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > ---
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > "McCain said the Vermont senator, who is competing with Clinton
>>>> for
>>>> >> >> > the
>>>> >> >> > Democratic presidential nomination next year, worked hard for
>>>> >> >> > veterans in
>>>> >> >> > his role as chairman of the Veterans’ Affairs Committee.
>>>> >> >> > “The fact is we were able to come together and pass legislation
>>>> that
>>>> >> >> > was
>>>> >> >> > nearly unanimous in both the House and the Senate, so he does
>>>> have a
>>>> >> >> > record
>>>> >> >> > of advocacy for our veterans,” he said in response to a question
>>>> >> >> > about the
>>>> >> >> > candidates' positions on veterans' issues during a press call on
>>>> >> >> > Wednesday.
>>>> >> >> > “To my knowledge, I know of no activity, legislative or
>>>> otherwise,
>>>> >> >> > that
>>>> >> >> > Hillary Clinton was engaged in during her time as a United
>>>> States
>>>> >> >> > senator,”
>>>> >> >> > he added."
>>>> >> >> > from:
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/258368-mccain-sanders-has-better-record-on-veterans-than-hillary
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Yes internet warrior, even the much famed former POW John
>>>> McCain very
>>>> >> >> > much likes working with Sanders.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Signed,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > A US Combat Veteran who has *very fucking much* paid attention
>>>> to
>>>> >> >> > Sander's records because it directly impacts me.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:21 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> >> >> > <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> did you really just say hes done well for veterans?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Josh Reynolds
>>>> >> >> >> <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> It may be sad, but out of all of the contenders he's the only
>>>> one I
>>>> >> >> >>> would trust. His voting record is solid, he chained himself to
>>>> >> >> >>> black
>>>> >> >> >>> protesters in the 60's (and was arrested in the process), has
>>>> done
>>>> >> >> >>> well for veteran's, etc. No scandals. He's as much a Democrat
>>>> >> >> >>> though
>>>> >> >> >>> as Trump is a Republican - both are very independant. Maybe
>>>> one day
>>>> >> >> >>> we can actually have a 3rd or 4th party on the tickets - but I
>>>> >> >> >>> doubt
>>>> >> >> >>> it.
>>>> >> >> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016 at 7:36 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>>>> >> >> >>> < <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> > Trump/Carson would be a neat matchup
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > I'm really looking forward to Sanders coming on Fox. Of all
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> >>> > candidates he's the only one who actually legitimately cares
>>>> >> >> >>> > about
>>>> >> >> >>> > the people, even if he is a short bus shy of a full helmet.
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>> > On Mar 4, 2016 7:23 AM, "Jay Weekley" <
>>>> par...@cyberbroadband.net>
>>>> >> >> >>> > wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> >> It's likely going to be a long 4 years regardless of who
>>>> wins.
>>>> >> >> >>> >> The best candidates have already dropped out.  Probably
>>>> because
>>>> >> >> >>> >> they weren't flamboyant enough to get attention.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> >> Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> It really is a sad state of affairs. I don't think Trump
>>>> is
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> really bigoted, or maybe as bigoted, as he is made out.
>>>> That is
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> about the best thing I can't think to say about him.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Cruz is just another lying politician that will day or do
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> anything to get elected and was the first to tap into the
>>>> whole
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> "angry court" syndrome a few years ago.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Rubio will void for wherever poles say.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Kasich is to obviously to reasonable for many people to
>>>> vote
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> for
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> him.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> On the dem side you have a socialist and an entitled
>>>> elitist
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> that
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> has always flirted with the illegality of her desires.
>>>> She just
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> thinks she deserves to be President.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> The whole thing is sad. America has so many principled,
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> intelligent people who are either on the left, right, or
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> independent. It is hard to believe this is the best
>>>> willing to
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> come forward to serve.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> All people deserve the government they allow to rule over
>>>> them.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> I
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> am afraid that doesn't say a lot for us.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 4, 2016, 2:20 AM Josh Reynolds
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> < <j...@kyneticwifi.com>j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <mailto: <j...@kyneticwifi.com>j...@kyneticwifi.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Oh, forgot:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Google's most searched for policy issues
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <
>>>> <https://www.google.com/trends/story/c5c95ce9-6b74-4939-b112-57e405ef0109>
>>>> https://www.google.com/trends/story/c5c95ce9-6b74-4939-b112-57e405ef0109
>>>> >,
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     from June 23 to June 29: (from 1-10)
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Immigration
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Same-Sex Marriage
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Education
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Gun Control
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Taxes
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Economy
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Health Care
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Climate Change
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Foreign Policy
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     Environment
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     On Mar 4, 2016 2:14 AM, "Josh Reynolds"
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> < <j...@kyneticwifi.com>j...@kyneticwifi.com
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>     <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> <http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism>
>>>> http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>         On Mar 3, 2016 10:19 PM, "Jaime Solorza"
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>         < <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <mailto: <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>         wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             Trump is crass...no class...Kasich stayed
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> focused....
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> my
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             wife called it a joke....very few real issues
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             discussed....Trump can only quote
>>>> polls...OReilly
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> not
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             giving in... I am surprised. Cruz is a
>>>> revisionist
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> in
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> his
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             closing statement... Obama didn't send troops
>>>> into
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             combat...Bush did...Obama inherited that
>>>> mess.  I
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> take
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             Iraq fiasco personally... my son was there
>>>> and came
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> back
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             damaged....we are trying to get him
>>>> healed...my
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> brother
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             was shot in leg....will limp forever....
>>>> those are
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             facts...I attend veterans court on
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Wednesdays....those
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> men
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             and women didn't deserve to get hurt and
>>>> damaged in
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             Iraq... the enemy was in Afghanistan and
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Pakistan.....
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> if
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             I was a Republican, perish the thought,  John
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> Kasich
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> made
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             the most sense.  But I don't need to say
>>>> more...
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> the
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> GOP
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             is imploding...fighting amongst itself...
>>>> Romney
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> and
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             Rigell really going after Trump...keep
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> going...Lincoln
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> and
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             even Reagan are spinning in their tombs..
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             On Mar 3, 2016 8:46 PM, "Rory Conaway"
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             <r...@triadwireless.net
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <mailto: <r...@triadwireless.net>r...@triadwireless.net>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>             wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 Trump just responded to Rubio’s little
>>>> hands
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> comment
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 by referring to the size of his manhood
>>>> as it
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> pertains
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 to the theory of the size of a man’s
>>>> hands. For
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> that
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 comment alone, in a Presidential debate,
>>>> he
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> should
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> be
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 appointed King.   I almost fell off the
>>>> chair
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> laughing.
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •**CEO*
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 *4226 S. 37^th Street • Phoenix • AZ
>>>> 85040*
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 *602-426-0542 <tel:602-426-0542>*
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 *r...@triadwireless.net
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> <mailto: <r...@triadwireless.net>r...@triadwireless.net>*
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 *www.triadwireless.net
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> < <http://www.triadwireless.net/>
>>>> http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 **
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 “The best baseball fields in the world are
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> built
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> with
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>                 a plastic bat, a wiffle ball, and a little
>>>> >> >> >>> >>> creativity”
>>>> >> >> >>> >>>
>>>> >> >> >>> >>
>>>> >> >> >>> >
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> --
>>>> >> >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see
>>>> your
>>>> >> >> >> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the
>>>> >> >> >> team.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

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