Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

George Skorup Thu, 10 Mar 2016 11:20:25 -0800

So if I'm reading this correctly... regular 450 APs are being poweredand running happily at 48VDC? That's funny because they're also supposedto be 30VDC max.


On 3/10/2016 11:45 AM, Scott Vander Dussen wrote:

You know what's funny is we did... But every time we tested wehappened to grab 450 since that's almost exclusively what wereinstalling now. One time one of the techs put a FSK SM on it and itdied- he mentioned it in passing but we chalked it up to bad FSK takenfrom our graveyard bin on pulls. ��


Thanks,
`S

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On Mar 10, 2016, at 09:34, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

That's awesome.  Glad it's not too bad.

Next time lab it :)

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Mar 10, 2016 12:31 PM, "Scott Vander Dussen" <sc...@velociter.net<mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:


    As an update, we scrounged up 4 connectorized APs of our own and
    Bill Prince has 2 which I'm driving out to go get.  Paul McCall
    is also connectorized and shipping me some for spares.  Love this
    list, thanks guys!  We'll have 80% of the customers restored
    within 90 minutes, the rest this afternoon.

    Whew, fun morning.


    -----Original Message-----
    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:07 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    Or, if Cambium was nice, they could give you code to convert an
    SM into an AP.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck McCown
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:05 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    If you are good with an iron, you could remove the regulator chip
    from an SM and replace it into the AP (assuming it is the
    regulator that dies from overvoltage).

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck McCown
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:05 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    He might could do an advance replacement...

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Chuck McCown
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:04 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    Paul McCall can probably fix those APs.

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Christopher Tyler
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:03 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    Live an learn. At least you'll never do it again (hopefully).

    --
    Christopher Tyler
    MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
    Total Highspeed Internet Services
    417.851.1107 <tel:417.851.1107>

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:02:07 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    We all just shed a collective tear...

    At least tomorrow is Friday, right?
    Spring his here!
    Jaime is bound to put some photos of good food on the list.
    Plenty of reasons to continue to live Scott.

    From: Scott Vander Dussen
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:58 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

    Oh wow, that’s fairly misleading.  So I just smoked a ring of FSK.



    From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Baird
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:56 AM
    To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?



    Yeah, the SI's take up to ~60V, but they output what you feed
    them.  If you feed them 48V, they output 48V.  They do not have
    internal DC/DC converters unless I completely missed a new
    product announcement from Forrest (but, I don't see this product
    on the website).



    On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Scott Vander Dussen
    <sc...@velociter.net <mailto:sc...@velociter.net>>
    wrote:



      Thanks,

      `S



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      On Mar 10, 2016, at 07:53, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com
    <mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        I haven't heard of this magical SyncInjector with a built in
    DC-DC converter that you speak of!



        On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Scott Vander Dussen
    <sc...@velociter.net <mailto:sc...@velociter.net>> wrote:

          Yes, but we're using SyncInjector version IO which allows
    24-56VDC input and regulates that back down to 24VDC for the radios.

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
    <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
          Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 7:39 AM
          To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

          Dumb question:
          You know the FSK have an absolute max input voltage of 30
    VDC with the smoke exit voltage around 36 VDC, right?

          -----Original Message-----
          From: Scott Vander Dussen
          Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:34 AM
          To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
          Subject: [AFMUG] FSK power problem?

          We just changed out a 24vdc 20A AC/DC power supply with a
    48vdc rectifier.
          This powers 4 Syncinjectors and 2 Netonix. There is a mix
    of 450 and FSK APs in each of those Syncinjectors. When we
    powered back up 6 of the 6 FSK wont establish eth link with the
    Netonix, all the 450 are fine.  Ideas?
    Tower climber en route but I'm stumped. TIA

          Thanks,
          `S

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