Oh grow up, get a grip..... The Chinese MFG are eating everyone's lunch.... all over the world. The American and European MFG, are (Screwing) all the American and European Companies like crazy on the premium pricing which is totally unchecked... (Why does a SFP+ cost $65 from China and $1500 from Cisco etc ?)
And telling stories that create FUD to have folks keep away from doing business with the overseas mfg. pays quiet well... Let's flip this argument for a moment... Do you think that Cisco / Alcatel / Lucent / etc etc don't have some sort of backdoor built into their products for the US/EU governments ? Why are you worried about an international gov. snooping in your tiny piss-any network, when any gov. can already do so ? Do business with who you like, and don't with who you don't like.... it's totally your choice.... But at the end of the day, when the Gov is involved, irrespective of which one... you have to bring your own jar of Vaseline, and they don't kiss in the morning ! Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom > From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:22:11 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > They may be able to sell some of that here domestically, since one of the > presidential candidates suggested “closing that Internet up in some way”. > From: Josh Reynolds > Sent: Sunday, March 20 , 2016 1:00 PM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet > snooping and repression, right? > On Mar 20 , 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: >> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. >> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 >> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran and >> not >> use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a little >> humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company that is >> clearly Huawei. >> From: Mike Hammett >> Sent: Sunday, March 20 , 2016 11:44 AM >> To: af@afmug.com >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable. >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> The Brothers WISP >> From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: Saturday, March 19 , 2016 6:44:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has by >> any >> chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce? Do those >> members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100% in line >> with >> things the government as a whole says or does? >> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was bullshit >> put >> for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco which was >> later >> RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years and then used in >> FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? >> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything "bad" in >> your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and NSA. They have >> an incredible amount of data and control. >> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid >> shipment >> and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA was caught >> weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put backdoors in >> equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - putting our own >> countries citizens and world governments at risk in the process? >> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't done >> shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are insinuating that >> every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag while >> simultaneously >> holding up a different mirror to our own government and its employees. >> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. >> On Mar 19 , 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com >> > >> wrote: >>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one of >>> the >>> lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. This >>> person >>> could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a result. >>> On Saturday, March 19 , 2016, Rory Conaway < r...@triadwireless.net > wrote: >>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. Huawei >>>> is >>>> both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>>> Rory >>>> From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard >>>> Sent: Saturday, March 19 , 2016 4:03 PM >>>> To: af >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you can >>>> most >>>> likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more costly >>>> parts >>>> of doing LTE. >>>> On Sat, Mar 19 , 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com > wrote: >>>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about though. >>>> First of >>>> all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't a ton of money, just >>>> seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, I'm a little wary of >>>> the >>>> Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the specific "fellow" that >>>> they're talking about. >>>> On Fri, Mar 18 , 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> The Brothers WISP
