If you pull up the calculator, it is nothing but a UPS for your selected loads. 
  

From: Eric Kuhnke 
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 8:56 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla 7kWh powerwall as UPS?

There's a lot of marketing fluff there and not much technical info.  I'm not 
sure how it can safely or legally feed power "backwards" into the same 120V 15A 
circuit it's plugged into, particularly during an outage if a house does not 
have a grid disconnect permanently installed. 

More likely the design is that it charges itself from an input 15A circuit, and 
has a separate set of power outlets/sockets which you can connect loads to.


On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:22 PM, Sterling Jacobson <[email protected]> wrote:

  I purchased one of these to play with:



  
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ericclifton/orison-rethink-the-power-of-energy



  I’m not sure exactly how they work their magic, but you should just be able 
to plug it into the same power strip and it will charge, and supply power in 
case of an outage?



  All on a common 15amp 110v plug.



  We’ll see how it actually goes in August when I get mine.



  I also pre-ordered a powerwall like a year ago and haven’t heard much back 
from Tesla.



  I would probably use the powerwall in a solar setup combo if I move.

  It’s tempting to get a few and string them together for my office, but it 
would take some creative engineering to wire it in correctly on a transfer 
switch I think.



  From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
  Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:54 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tesla 7kWh powerwall as UPS?



  There's not a lot of technical information available about them, don't they 
have an integrated sinewave DC-to-AC inverter?  I could be wrong but I believe 
they output AC.  Assuming a typical installation for their target market, 
residential, do they require purchase of a separate DC-to-AC inverter?

  They're rated at 3.3kW load (AC) to power a house.



  On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:

    Only hassle is that they are 450 volts (or in that neighborhood). Big 
challenge finding DC-DC converters for that, or maybe go back to 
battery-inverter-DC power supply design.

    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>



    On 3/23/2016 6:45 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:

      $3000 is not so bad for something that can deliver up to 5kW for multiple 
hours...

      
http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/tesla-powerwall-home-installations-are-starting-for-pilot-customers/

      I am interested to see the results of integrating two of these in 
parallel with an off grid solar array. At first glance it appears a great deal 
less expensive than buying a dozen 12V 200Ah lead acid AGM batteries to make a 
string. And should last a lot longer in 60% cycle depth daily cyclic use.


      Interesting they've cancelled the 10kWh model ($3500) which had a much 
shorter lifespan, the 7kW model is rated at 5000 cycles.





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