The cellcos will happily sell them meter reading in the cloud. http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-targets-utilities-smart-energy-service-platform/2015-07-29
From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:57 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies Some of the big players in the water metering slave own a national license they bought from some paging providers, I think. I know the provider we bought our system from used 901 and 929. I could findor if you really want to know. Or digital systems operate at 9600 baud, 6.25 equivalency or TDMA 2 slot 12.5 KHz. The radios are sensitive to -127db. ERP can be hundred of watts on the repeater side depending. If the do decide to get frequencies down in that rang go UHF and license them FB8. I doubt they need the extra rangeVHF would lemme but the meters are sitting on the ground so penetration will be important. They should run propagation studies to decide. On Mon, Apr 25, 2016, 7:08 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: Maybe we need to listen to our neighbors up north: http://urgentcomm.com/policy_and_law/news/smart-grid-spectrum-20090617 From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:30 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies Okay...what do you need SCADA or AMR? Check this out and get some ideas....I doubt they can't find licensed bands. http://msps.com/aclara-automation On Apr 25, 2016 3:55 PM, "Jesse DuPont" <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote: > > Are you sure those are PTMP (multiple transmitters)? I know a lot of utilities will use licensed mid-band 900 MHz for 2-way console-to-controller or controller-to-controller audio links (older systems), but I was thinking all the PTMP systems (where each node is a transmitter) was all unlicensed, like for meter reading. > > Jesse DuPont > > Network Architect > email:mailto:jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net > Celerity Networks LLC > > Celerity Broadband LLC > Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc > > Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband > > On 4/25/16 3:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: >> >> Then why am I finding utility companies in WA and OR with 900 MHz licensed stuff in the FCC ULS? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>> There isn't a band allocated to them in the US. I think Canada's IC did. >>> >>> If they really want a licensed band you might look in to 2.5 or 3.5. There may be additional options. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>>> >>>> can anyone point me in the direction of what licensed spectrum is available and how to obtain the spectrum for electrical and water utility companies that want to do advanced metering. >>>> >>>> our local co-op is about to deploy a 900Mhz system and they stated that they couldn't get any licensed spectrum. >>>> >>>> Any and all advice is greatly appreciate! >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Sean >>>> >>> >> >