The cellcos will happily sell them meter reading in the cloud.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/verizon-targets-utilities-smart-energy-service-platform/2015-07-29


From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 8:57 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

Some of the big players in the water metering slave own a national license they 
bought from some paging providers, I think. I know the provider we bought our 
system from used 901 and 929. I could findor if you really want to know. 
Or digital systems operate at 9600 baud, 6.25 equivalency or TDMA 2 slot 12.5 
KHz. The radios are sensitive to -127db. ERP can be hundred of watts on the 
repeater side depending. 

If the do decide to get frequencies down in that rang go UHF and license them 
FB8. I doubt they need the extra rangeVHF would lemme but the meters are 
sitting on the ground so penetration will be important. They should run 
propagation  studies to decide. 



On Mon, Apr 25, 2016, 7:08 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

  Maybe we need to listen to our neighbors up north:
  http://urgentcomm.com/policy_and_law/news/smart-grid-spectrum-20090617



  From: Jaime Solorza 
  Sent: Monday, April 25, 2016 5:30 PM
  To: Animal Farm 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Licensed spectrum for utility companies

  Okay...what do you need SCADA or AMR? Check this out and get some ideas....I 
doubt they can't find licensed bands.  
  http://msps.com/aclara-automation


  On Apr 25, 2016 3:55 PM, "Jesse DuPont" <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net> wrote:


    >


  > Are you sure those are PTMP (multiple transmitters)? I know a lot of 
utilities will use licensed mid-band 900 MHz for 2-way console-to-controller or 
controller-to-controller audio links (older systems), but I was thinking all 
the PTMP systems (where each node is a transmitter) was all unlicensed, like 
for meter reading.
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  >
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  > On 4/25/16 3:52 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:


    >>


  >> Then why am I finding utility companies in WA and OR with 900 MHz licensed 
stuff in the FCC ULS?
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 1:07 PM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:


    >>>


  >>> There isn't a band allocated to them in the US.  I think Canada's IC did.
  >>>
  >>> If they really want a licensed band you might look in to 2.5 or 3.5.  
There may be additional options.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> Josh Luthman
  >>> Office: 937-552-2340
  >>> Direct: 937-552-2343
  >>> 1100 Wayne St
  >>> Suite 1337
  >>> Troy, OH 45373
  >>>
  >>> On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:


    >>>>


  >>>> can anyone point me in the direction of what licensed spectrum is 
available and how to obtain the spectrum for electrical and water utility 
companies that want to do advanced metering.
  >>>>
  >>>> our local co-op is about to deploy a 900Mhz system and they stated that 
they couldn't get any licensed spectrum.
  >>>>
  >>>> Any and all advice is greatly appreciate!
  >>>>
  >>>> Thanks,
  >>>> Sean
  >>>>
  >>>
  >>
  >

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