Oh, yeah, that was you!  That makes sense.  We are looking at using SyncBox
12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess).  This allows us
to run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's.  The FSK/450
gets timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the
WS-12-250-DC.  No need for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in
this scenario.  Just an idea.

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
wrote:

> I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :)
>  I wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of
> the Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in
> the enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical
> to step down large wattages.  I understand the same point of failure is in
> the WS but it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :)
>
> With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3%
> voltage drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily
> be tuned up to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in
> the 1016 Mikrotik and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc.  Everything is
> fully DC, finally!
>
> I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office.
>
> Thanks,
> 'S
>
> Sent mobile!
>
> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are
> running DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern.  I realize the
> WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more
> efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V).  If you already have 4
> batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier?
>
> Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT?  Off-list is fine
> if you would like.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Josh
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks!  The base of the tower is quite simple:
>>
>>
>>
>> Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk
>>
>> ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available)
>> http://goo.gl/GkOBBW
>>
>> 12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to make
>> 24v) http://goo.gl/rCXciW
>>
>> 3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking
>> http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP
>>
>> MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ
>>
>> 6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors
>> http://goo.gl/8x5fcg
>>
>>
>>
>> The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total
>> height.  There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U
>> battery trays.  The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to
>> everything, with the exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for
>> battery management and monitoring.
>>
>>
>>
>> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP
>> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP
>> compatibility.  So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber
>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from
>> enclosure).  The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via
>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8
>> APs there’s a full gig to the router.  (You could have 12 APs per switch if
>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total).  The enclosures are standardized so we
>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a
>> catastrophic failure.
>>
>>
>>
>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using:
>>
>> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1
>>
>> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex
>> to Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm
>>
>>
>>
>> `S
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird
>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box?
>>
>>
>>
>> This looks nice.  Good job.  What all do you have at the bottom?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I built a CMM for 2016!
>>
>> Highlights:
>>
>> *         Gigabit everything
>>
>> *         BiDi fiber support for 6 devices
>>
>> *         Sync/Power up to 24 devices
>>
>> *         Power 24v and 48v devices
>>
>> *         Temperature monitoring
>>
>> *         Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor
>>
>> *         Fan seizure notification
>>
>> *         LED light strip controlled by door
>>
>> *         Door alarm trigger
>>
>> *         Hoist pull loop
>>
>> *         20" x 18" x 10"
>>
>> *         36lbs
>>
>> *         Price circa $2100
>>
>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg
>> Parts list here:
>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf
>>
>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome?
>>
>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg]
>>
>>
>>
>
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