They only do timing, not ethernet. You run dedicated timing cables from the AP to the SyncBox, and then Cat5 from the AP to the Netonix switch for power+data.
On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net> wrote: > I considered those but they're not gigabit, correct? > > Thanks, > `S > > --- > Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. > > On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:39, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Oh, yeah, that was you! That makes sense. We are looking at using > SyncBox 12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess). This > allows us to run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's. > The FSK/450 gets timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the > WS-12-250-DC. No need for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in > this scenario. Just an idea. > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net > > wrote: > >> I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :) >> I wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of >> the Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in >> the enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical >> to step down large wattages. I understand the same point of failure is in >> the WS but it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :) >> >> With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3% >> voltage drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily >> be tuned up to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in >> the 1016 Mikrotik and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc. Everything is >> fully DC, finally! >> >> I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office. >> >> Thanks, >> 'S >> >> Sent mobile! >> >> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are >> running DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern. I realize the >> WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more >> efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V). If you already have 4 >> batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier? >> >> Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT? Off-list is >> fine if you would like. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Josh >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen < >> sc...@velociter.net> wrote: >> >>> Thanks! The base of the tower is quite simple: >>> >>> >>> >>> Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk >>> >>> ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) >>> http://goo.gl/GkOBBW >>> >>> 12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to >>> make 24v) http://goo.gl/rCXciW >>> >>> 3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking >>> http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP >>> >>> MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ >>> >>> 6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors >>> http://goo.gl/8x5fcg >>> >>> >>> >>> The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total >>> height. There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U >>> battery trays. The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to >>> everything, with the exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for >>> battery management and monitoring. >>> >>> >>> >>> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP >>> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP >>> compatibility. So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber >>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from >>> enclosure). The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via >>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 >>> APs there’s a full gig to the router. (You could have 12 APs per switch if >>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total). The enclosures are standardized so we >>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a >>> catastrophic failure. >>> >>> >>> >>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using: >>> >>> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1 >>> >>> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC Simplex >>> to Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> `S >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird >>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32 >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box? >>> >>> >>> >>> This looks nice. Good job. What all do you have at the bottom? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen < >>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote: >>> >>> I built a CMM for 2016! >>> >>> Highlights: >>> >>> * Gigabit everything >>> >>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices >>> >>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices >>> >>> * Power 24v and 48v devices >>> >>> * Temperature monitoring >>> >>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor >>> >>> * Fan seizure notification >>> >>> * LED light strip controlled by door >>> >>> * Door alarm trigger >>> >>> * Hoist pull loop >>> >>> * 20" x 18" x 10" >>> >>> * 36lbs >>> >>> * Price circa $2100 >>> >>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg >>> Parts list here: >>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf >>> >>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome? >>> >>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg] >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
