Speed tests try to determine the characteristics of the last mile connection, 
using some assumption about what happens when you reach its capacity, like 
increased queuing delay or increased packet loss.  They probably work better 
when there is a physical limit like DSL line rate.  Speed tiers can be 
problematic, since there is often at least some burst above the subscribed 
rate.  I see this particularly on the speedtest.net upstream graph, which will 
jump up to a high number and then gradually drop the test rate until it finds 
the sustained rate, but customers interpret the graph to mean the “speed” is 
not consistent.

Speed tests also don’t account for typical use which is lots of different 
content sharing the connection.  Just because your 100M connection doesn’t pull 
100M from the speedtest.net server doesn’t necessarily mean you can’t achieve 
100M of typical mixed traffic.

At least this new test is clear about what it is testing:  how much traffic can 
you pull from Netflix.  And given how Netflix dominates Internet traffic, 
that’s not an unrealistic thing to test.


From: Daniel White 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 7:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

So those Comcast results were from last night.  Just ran again this morning…

 



 



 

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Daniel White [mailto:afmu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:42 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com' <af@afmug.com>
Subject: RE: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

 

On my Comcast connection its within a few Mbps.  100Mbps on Fast.com and 
105Mbps on Speedtest.

 

Need to try my WISP connection later today.

 

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590

dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of CBB - Jay Fuller
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:09 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

 

 

Judging from the last 5 posts, no one has yet...

if his test server is inhouse as i think he said - i agree, should be an 
interesting response

 

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Nate Burke 

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 5:52 PM

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

   

  So then do you get full line speed results from the test?

  On 5/18/2016 5:51 PM, Cassidy B. Larson wrote:

    Interesting though, from watching tcpdump while doing a speedtest, I’m 
seeing it hit BOTH of our local on-net Netflix appliances (over IPv6). 

     

     

      On May 18, 2016, at 4:49 PM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:

       

      2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4 and 205.251.244.235 are both Amazon IPs. 

      Netflix uses a lot of EC2 stuff, so you’re not necessarily hitting their 
“cache” when you pull up their website. 

       

       

        On May 18, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net> 
wrote:

         

        Very inaccurate too.

        I get 160Mbps results on a 10Gbps connection.

        This is with a path to Netflix that pretty much sits in LA.

        So I am assuming I hit their CDN in LA all the time.

        Not sure where their speed test web app is located.

        IPv6

        C:\Users\Sterling>tracert netflix.com

        Tracing route to netflix.com [2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4]

        over a maximum of 30 hops:

          1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  2606:cb80:2:2::1

          2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  2604:ba00:1:22::1

          3    18 ms    22 ms    22 ms  he.net.slix.net [2607:fa18:1:f00::15]

          4    18 ms    18 ms    19 ms  10ge1-1.core1.las1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27d::1]

          5    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  10ge1-14.core1.lax2.he.net 
[2001:470:0:27e::1]

          6    18 ms    21 ms    24 ms  100ge2-1.core1.lax1.he.net 
[2001:470:0:72::1]

          7    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  
asn-qwest-us-as209.10gigabitethernet5-5.core1.lax1.he.net [2001:470:0:2c0::2]

          8    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  2001:428::205:171:3:199

          9    23 ms    24 ms    25 ms  2001:428:7000:10:0:16:0:2

        10     *        *        *     Request timed out.

        11    42 ms    42 ms    43 ms  2620:107:3000::e

        12    42 ms    42 ms    43 ms  2620:108:7000::6

        13    42 ms    42 ms    43 ms  2620:108:7000::7

        14    42 ms    42 ms    42 ms  2620:108:7000::1

        15     *        *        *     Request timed out.

        16     *        *        *     Request timed out.

        17     *        *        *     Request timed out.

        18     *       42 ms    42 ms  2620:108:700f::36f4:7ea4

        IPv4

        C:\Users\Sterling>tracert -4 netflix.com

        Tracing route to netflix.com [54.225.192.83]

        over a maximum of 30 hops:

          1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  108-165-31-1.avative.net [108.165.31.1]

          2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  tg1-8--200.br01.lsan.acedc.net 
[69.27.173.37]

          3     4 ms     4 ms     5 ms  208.186.235.162

          4    33 ms    33 ms    34 ms  be-1.br02.chcgildt.integra.net 
[209.63.82.186]

          5    32 ms    32 ms    32 ms  equinix01-chi2.amazon.com 
[206.223.119.98]

          6    38 ms    42 ms    42 ms  52.95.62.36

          7    32 ms    32 ms    32 ms  52.95.62.49

          8    52 ms    52 ms    52 ms  54.239.42.63

          9    52 ms    52 ms    52 ms  54.239.42.69

        10     *        *        *     Request timed out.

        11     *        *        *     Request timed out.

        12    54 ms    61 ms    67 ms  54.239.110.249

        13    53 ms    53 ms    53 ms  54.239.111.105

        14    53 ms    58 ms    55 ms  205.251.244.235

        From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
        Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2016 4:33 PM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] fast.com utility

        further discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11722775

        This could be useful from a residential last mile customer point of 
view, to expose ISPs which have good peering/low congestion tospeedtest.net but 
might have less than optimal routing to Netflix. Or an ISP that is flat topping 
the traffic charts on an N x 10GbE link to netflix somewhere in the 
intermediate path.

        Some people will see radically different results from speetest vs this 
new Netflix test during peak evening hours.

        On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 3:24 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

          Just came across this https://fast.com.  Utility from netflix. 
Torching it looks like it opens 3 HTTPS connections to 3 different IP Addresses 
to run the test.  Only reports download speed, no Latency or Upload.

       

     

   


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