we are leaving the cheap freebie to the customer vendor because of it. You leave cheap freebies to the customer all the time for various reasons... all the time. The point of free shit is that you dont need to actively support it. Im not talking about infrastructure, or CPE radios. Im talking about the free shit
On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > Everyone will have their vulnerabilities. If you leave a vendor because of > one they patched and you didn't upgrade, you'll run out of them really > quick. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, May 19, 2016 10:37:45 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] UBNT Virus Discussion - ispradio.com > > Im actually glad this happenned for a few reasons. first being it only got > customer airrouters with public IPs on our network. port 80 was already > changed on most for the DMZ but we had still open and 5.62 was our base > firmware, we just hadnt moved up because it was "stable" we just hadnt gone > back through and religiously upgraded backhauls and CPE routers > It made the decision official to move to providing a mikrotik router > rather than an air router to every customer who wants one- woot > > It opened our eyes to the serious impact of being small and acting small. > We had always approached things as being a big fish in a small pond of our > small coverage area, we thought being in the small pond we didnt have to > take overall security all that seriously. The reality is we are a minnow in > a polluted ocean and this round there happenned to be a bunch of drunken > teenagers who hijacked a cinch-net fishing trawler. The moral of this story > is that our attitude opened the door for us to be part of the global > malicious traffic problem. Our lack of good stewardship made us bad > neighbors. If we were Japanese I think this is when we would gut ourselves > with a sword, good thing we are arrogant prick Americans and we can just > brush off the responsibility and blame UBNT. > > On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 4:54 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote: > >> Yup... >> On May 18, 2016 4:43 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The sad thing is, even if people couldn't be bothered to update >>> firmware, most (if not all) of this could've been avoided if they secured >>> their networks properly. >>> >>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I think it's good - obviously there's people who hadn't updated for a >>>> year even though this was a critical issue. The more exposure, the better! >>>> >>>> On 5/18/2016 11:18 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>> >>>> FFS why is this even a thing >>>> >>>> (Not your show, this discussion.) >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 18, 2016 at 11:12 AM, Dennis Burgess < >>>> dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> RIGHT NOW! <http://www.ispradio.com>www.ispradio.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [image: DennisBurgessSignature] >>>>> >>>>> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Simon Westlake >>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>> Email: simon@sonar.software >>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 >>>> --------------------------- >>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software >>>> >>>> >>> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. > > -- If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
