Extra wide cabinets are awesome for cable management.

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 12:42 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
> The cabinets are 50 or 52U in size – custom size I know for sure… extra wide
> too which is nice
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> When filled (pure SSD, almost 200TB raw capacity) they draw around 16kW of
> power J
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> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: May 14, 2016 7:50 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures
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> How does a 44U cabinet need 208V 60A for storage arrays?
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> In a 4U chassis the max hard drives (front and rear) is about 60 x 3.5"...
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> Say each drive is 7.5W TDP, that's 450W of drives. Add another 200W for
> controller/motherboard and fans. 650W in 4U.
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> 44 / 4 = 11
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> Multply by 650
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> 7150W
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> More realistically with a normal amount of drives (like 40 per 4U) a single
> 208 30A is sufficient,
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> 208 x 30 = 6240W
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> Run at max 0.85 load on the circuit, so
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> 6240 x 0.85 = 5304W
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> In a really dense 2.5" environment all of the above is of course invalid,
> you could probably need up to 7900W per cabinet
> Then there's 52U cabinets as well...
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> On May 13, 2016 6:16 PM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org> wrote:
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> Yup … general trends on new data centers are pushing those temperatures
> higher for efficiency but also with better designs ..
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> One of our data centers runs at 78F and have no issues – each cabinet is
> standard 208V 30A as you mention but can go per cabinet much higher if
> needed (ie. 208V 60A for storage arrays)
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> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: May 11, 2016 5:15 PM
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> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures
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> There have been some fairly large data set studies done shown that air
> intake temperature for huge numbers of servers, at 77-78F does not correlate
> with a statistically significant rate of failure.
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> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2008/09/18/intel-servers-do-fine-with-outside-air/
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> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2012/03/23/too-hot-for-humans-but-google-servers-keep-humming/
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> how/what you do for cooling is definitely dependent on the load. Designing a
> colo facility to use a full 208V 30A circuit per cabinet (5.5kW) in a
> hot/cold air separated configuration is very different than 'normal' older
> facilities that are one large open room.
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> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:58 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
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> I’m not sure you can answer the question without knowing the max heat load
> per cabinet and how you manage airflow in the cabinets.
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> AFAIK it used to be standard practice to keep data centers as cold as
> possible without requiring people to wear parkas, but energy efficiency is a
> consideration now.
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> From: That One Guy /sarcasm
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> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 3:51 PM
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> To: af@afmug.com
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> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Data center temperatures
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> apparently 72 is the the ideal for our noc, i set our thermostat to 60 and
> it always gets turned back to 72, so i just say fuck it, I wanted new gear
> in the racks anyway
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> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Larry Smith <lesm...@ecsis.net> wrote:
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> On Wed May 11 2016 15:37, Josh Luthman wrote:
>> Just curious what the ideal temp is for a data center.  Our really nice
>> building that Sprint ditched ranges from 60 to 90F (on a site monitor).
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> I try to keep my NOC room at about 62F, that puts many of the CPU's
> at 83 to 90F.  Many of the bigger places I visit will generally be 55 to
> 60F.
> Loads of computers (data center type) are primarily groupings of little
> heaters...
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> Larry Smith
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