F16 is a great, agile platform. Not quite as good as the F15 when it comes
to maneuvering and raw power though - it's got some tricks!
I do wish the F14 was still around.
On Jun 8, 2016 4:43 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
> They demo'd an F16 flying at an insane angle of attack one year at a
> Moffet Field open house. He was flying the thing at about 100' AGL down the
> runway at walking speed. Nuts.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 6/8/2016 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>
>> This was all about 1000 AGL too.
>> Not much of a cushion should that single engine on the F16 flame out due
>> to super high angle of attack and super slow speed.
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:20 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
>> Syncdropswarning
>>
>> A jet jockey's nightmare... But a really good target for gun
>> passes.... The thing you don't want to see them hanging out. Now an
>> f22 would have had fun "hanging" with you...
>>
>> On 06/08/2016 11:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> I was flying a 150 and got intercepted by a pair of F16s .... well they
>>> tried to intercept me.
>>>
>>> Once I figured out that they were unhappy (I ever so slightly trimmed
>>> the corner off of a restricted area and I was in contact all along) I
>>> decided to have fun.
>>> Throttle back, nose up, full flaps, throttle up. Dragging my butt
>>> along about 40 mph.
>>>
>>> They made multiple passes with everything hanging out but there was no
>>> way they could do it.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:14 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
>>> Syncdropswarning
>>>
>>> Restricted vs. MOA's.. it's an interesting airspace mess to need to
>>> fly around.. Lot's and Lot's of MOA's fewer restricted areas, and if
>>> you are around either one you need to really do your homework. That
>>> said the guys at Edwards are a great group of controllers always willing
>>> to work with civilian traffic and, if the opportunity is there will let
>>> you be an interception target, a witness to cool stuff ( think B2
>>> refueling ), or just a bug on the wall when they can't talk about it but
>>> can give you a visual vector...
>>>
>>> On 06/08/2016 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>>> When you live near restricted areas, and you have a legit reason to be
>>>> flying around them, the military will give you a tactical call sign and
>>>> let you through if it is safe.
>>>> If the range is “hot” they will not let you in and you do not want to be
>>>> in.
>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:35 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
>>>> Syncdropswarning
>>>> "i usually try to steer clear of bombing ranges when I fly lol."
>>>>
>>>> Im definetly no pilot, never even flown in a plane, but if I do ever fly
>>>> anywhere, I really would like to know this is a common attitude of most
>>>> pilots
>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
>>>> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> i usually try to steer clear of bombing ranges when I fly lol.
>>>> Last time i flew over the grand canyon tho I had 5 "bear cats"
>>>> (that's how ATC was referring to them over the radio) T-38 jets fly
>>>> straight towards me and break left at the last minute. I heard ATC
>>>> talking to them the whole time and ATC was warning me of traffic 12
>>>> o'clock coming straight for me. not much I could do except watch
>>>> them go by since i was going 150kts and they were a bit faster
>>>> haha. it almost seemed a bit on purpose but who knows, i could only
>>>> hear what ATC say saying to them, they were responding on another
>>>> frequency. made the last part of the trip a little less boring,
>>>> after you cross the canyon it's pretty flat and desolate land for
>>>> miles.
>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> If you fly in the blue restricted zones of the Wendover Bombing
>>>> Range or the Utah Test and Training Range, you will notice when
>>>> they are testing. It is very effective. Bad thing is it jams
>>>> your central office BITS clocks too!
>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 9:22 AM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West
>>>> Coast Sync dropswarning
>>>> The FAA has been issuing NOTAMS like that for a while now. I've
>>>> been in the air during a couple (live in CO and fly to SoCal a
>>>> lot) and never noticed loss of GPS. Looks like a reporter from
>>>> gizmodo finally noticed this NOTAM and wrote about it.
>>>> Shouldn't be a problem for any ground based GPS units. And if
>>>> you own a Phenom 300 then you can just blast up to 45,000ft to
>>>> avoid the jamming ;)
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, timothy steele
>>>> <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Gizmodo: FAA Warns of GPS Outages This Month During
>>>> Mysterious Tests on the West Coast.
>>>> http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwjLfC_Co
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
