They still are:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grumman_F-14_Tomcat#Iran

All politics and embargos aside, it's amazing they've been able to keep
them flying relying on a limited budget and black market / nonstandard /
custom fabricated repair parts.



On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> F16 is a great, agile platform. Not quite as good as the F15 when it comes
> to maneuvering and raw power though - it's got some tricks!
>
> I do wish the F14 was still around.
> On Jun 8, 2016 4:43 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> They demo'd an F16 flying at an insane angle of attack one year at a
>> Moffet Field open house. He was flying the thing at about 100' AGL down the
>> runway at walking speed. Nuts.
>>
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>> On 6/8/2016 11:23 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>> This was all about 1000 AGL too.
>>> Not much of a cushion should that single engine  on the F16 flame out
>>> due to super high angle of attack and super slow speed.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:20 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
>>> Syncdropswarning
>>>
>>> A jet jockey's nightmare...   But a really good target for gun
>>> passes....   The thing you don't want to see them hanging out. Now an
>>> f22 would have had fun "hanging" with you...
>>>
>>> On 06/08/2016 11:17 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was flying a 150 and got intercepted by a pair of F16s .... well they
>>>> tried to intercept me.
>>>>
>>>> Once I figured out that they were unhappy (I ever so slightly trimmed
>>>> the corner off of a restricted area and I was in contact all along) I
>>>> decided to have fun.
>>>> Throttle back, nose up, full flaps, throttle up.   Dragging my butt
>>>> along about 40 mph.
>>>>
>>>> They made multiple passes with everything hanging out but there was no
>>>> way they could do it.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:14 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
>>>> Syncdropswarning
>>>>
>>>> Restricted vs. MOA's..   it's an interesting airspace mess to need to
>>>> fly around..   Lot's and Lot's of MOA's fewer restricted areas, and if
>>>> you are around either one you need to really do your homework. That
>>>> said the guys at Edwards are a great group of controllers always willing
>>>> to work with civilian traffic and, if the opportunity is there will let
>>>> you be an interception target, a witness to cool stuff ( think B2
>>>> refueling ), or just a bug on the wall when they can't talk about it but
>>>> can give you a visual vector...
>>>>
>>>> On 06/08/2016 11:07 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> When you live near restricted areas, and you have a legit reason to be
>>>>> flying around them, the military will give you a tactical call sign and
>>>>> let you through if it is safe.
>>>>> If the range is “hot” they will not let you in and you do not want to
>>>>> be
>>>>> in.
>>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:35 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West Coast
>>>>> Syncdropswarning
>>>>> "i usually try to steer clear of bombing ranges when I fly lol."
>>>>>
>>>>> Im definetly no pilot, never even flown in a plane, but if I do ever
>>>>> fly
>>>>> anywhere, I really would like to know this is a common attitude of most
>>>>> pilots
>>>>> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
>>>>> <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>     i usually try to steer clear of bombing ranges when I fly lol.
>>>>>     Last time i flew over the grand canyon tho I had 5 "bear cats"
>>>>>     (that's how ATC was referring to them over the radio) T-38 jets fly
>>>>>     straight towards me and break left at the last minute.  I heard ATC
>>>>>     talking to them the whole time and ATC was warning me of traffic 12
>>>>>     o'clock coming straight for me.  not much I could do except watch
>>>>>     them go by since i was going 150kts and they were a bit faster
>>>>>     haha.  it almost seemed a bit on purpose but who knows, i could
>>>>> only
>>>>>     hear what ATC say saying to them, they were responding on another
>>>>>     frequency.  made the last part of the trip a little less boring,
>>>>>     after you cross the canyon it's pretty flat and desolate land for
>>>>> miles.
>>>>>     On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 9:25 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com
>>>>>     <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>         If you fly in the blue restricted zones of the Wendover Bombing
>>>>>         Range or the Utah Test and Training Range, you will notice when
>>>>>         they are testing.  It is very effective.  Bad thing is it jams
>>>>>         your central office BITS clocks too!
>>>>>         *From:* Sean Heskett <mailto:af...@zirkel.us>
>>>>>         *Sent:* Wednesday, June 08, 2016 9:22 AM
>>>>>         *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>>>>         *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] FAA Warns of GPS Outages on the West
>>>>>         Coast Sync dropswarning
>>>>>         The FAA has been issuing NOTAMS like that for a while now.
>>>>> I've
>>>>>         been in the air during a couple (live in CO and fly to SoCal a
>>>>>         lot) and never noticed loss of GPS.  Looks like a reporter from
>>>>>         gizmodo finally noticed this NOTAM and wrote about it.
>>>>>         Shouldn't be a problem for any ground based GPS units.  And if
>>>>>         you own a Phenom 300 then you can just blast up to 45,000ft to
>>>>>         avoid the jamming ;)
>>>>>         -Sean
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>         On Wednesday, June 8, 2016, timothy steele
>>>>>         <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>             Gizmodo: FAA Warns of GPS Outages This Month During
>>>>>             Mysterious Tests on the West Coast.
>>>>>             http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwjLfC_Co
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>> team
>>>>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>

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