LOL … yup I’m the same way … and when we get talking -10C it doesn’t sound so cold but damn .. ;)
Right now it’s 33C here (about 90 min outside of Toronto Ontario) which is really 91F but with horrible humidity it’s actually 37C or 99F approx From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: July 22, 2016 1:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq I'd use C, except that the temperature always sounds too cold. It's 21 degrees. Ooooohhhh, I need a parka. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 7/22/2016 10:31 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: This conversation has me laughing a bit …. As a Canadian, I am of the generation that started on inches, feet, F etc… (1970 through early 80’s) .. my kids look at me strange when I talk inches or feet and don’t even know what F vs C is for temperature ….. Despite this – it’s very common here to measure stuff still in feet, weight in pounds. If I go to Home Depot for example nobody there is going to sell me lumber in meters – everything is in feet. Temperature seems to have been more adopted to C but I still reference it always in F I’m sure different age groups in Canada look at this differently too From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: July 22, 2016 1:24 PM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 454 Chevy is almost 2 gallons displacement.... Liter I have not got memorized. I think a 12 oz can of soda is about 350 something. Just looked it up, 354, so like a Chevy 454 but 354 instead. I wonder if that will stick... 2.2 lbs per kg that one is easy. From: ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:20 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq 2.54 3.28 .621 I use these factors almost every day. I would hope most folks have them memorized. 231 is a bit more obscure (cubic inches per gallon) I still have a hard time doing the F to C. I know the ratio is 9/5 - 5/9 but the add/subtract 32 bit before/after the conversion is something I have to futz with. Normally I use a known conversion like 20-68 degrees and then play with the formula until it yields the correct answer and then I know it for a few minutes until the next time. From: Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:10 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq I just bought a set of 225/55R18 tires. Talk about mixed units. 225mm, 55%, 18in. From: Josh Luthman <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:44 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq Exactly. Problem solved if we just use 'merican units. Damn metric destroyed our equipment. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: I guess California isn't part of USA ese Holmes? Meters to feet mistake crashed a probe on Mars.... Math is supposed to be international.... Oh well ... On Jul 22, 2016 10:31 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: It's cool, I figure you're from one of those countries that haven't been to the moon. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com <mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com> > wrote: LOL! Stefan does! ;-) Thanks for the 'merica units help. On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:19 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: 45 and 125 mph. No one knows what you're talking about with the meaters. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com <mailto:hbledso...@gmail.com> > wrote: It's actually fairly forgiving. Our 1.1km link has not lost connection from wind at all and it has been up above 70kph. The standard and LR brackets are both tested to 200kph for your reference. Thanks, -Hal On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:53 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote: We are planning to use them on 10-12m steel poles. The poles are very solid built and with a concrete <http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/concrete.html> foundation <http://www.dict.cc/englisch-deutsch/foundation.html> but they might sway a bit due to the length with heavy wind. Is this critical? Is failover with 5Ghz fast enough to overcome short moves? Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 21:34 An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq So having dealt with multiple links, I can tell you that if you are missing some db's it has to do with alignment. We are seeing -55/-59 on our 450m link and on our 250m link we are seeing -43/-47 signal (and had to reduce power on 60ghz on one side.. .i.e. we are not aligned perfectly ) So I can say affirmatively there is no 'missing power' it has to do with alignment... :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net _____ From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:14:16 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq Do you get the calculated rx-power? Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 20:33 An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq It would be appropriate to point out that there are two versions or Metrolinq 60ghz Radios one smaller lower power and other larger higher power. We have been using the larger units (Circular cones) for links 250m to 450m successfully.. aiming them with the shipping brackets is a whole another challenge.. I am very happy to the the LR brackets available and those should go long ways is aligning longer links. . Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> _____ From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:57:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq We haven't had any issues with 5GHz but the 60GHz side underwhelms. We tried a 900' link and couldn't get the 60Ghz side to work. We were able to move one end and get it down to 600' and have a 60GHz link at -55 but that is 10-15db below where it should be. It's working, but at this point I wouldn't use it for anything over 500' or so. On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> > wrote: We’ve only dfs bands in 5 GHz. Metrolinq supports only the lower band with lower allowed power (1W EiRP). I’ve installed the newest FW before doing anything so I might be lucky to avoid the biggest problems (hopefully). Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 16:30 An: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq Interesting.. most folks have the opposite issue. FWIW, there is no dfs support on 5ghz (not sure about non-american rules). If you are bench testing... you need to turn down the power on 5ghz .. way down.... Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net> _____ From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net <mailto:s...@genias.net> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:13:34 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Metrolinq Got my first links. 60GHz work fine in lab. The 5GHz Part does strange things. Does not initialze or does not connect. Syslog gives dfs or cant initialize messages. 60GHz is up immediately und runs stable in lab. Latency is low. Feels like a 1G cable connection. Powered by Netonix 24V. Takes only 6 Watts. Good build quality. Webinterface is easy and fast. So a cheap option for fast short hops where you dont want to dig. -- Carl Peterson PORT NETWORKS 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (410) 637-3707 <tel:%28410%29%20637-3707>
