The fires are clearing a lot of foliage away from the west right now... Unfortunately it is also clearing away the houses that would have used said service...

On 08/02/2016 01:22 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
2.4FHSS was a different beast, for whatever reason at distance it
penetrated better than 900mhz, maybe the higher power, maybe how the
frequency hopping worked, I dont know. just sucks it was 1.5mbps. 900mhz
failed 50% of the time where 320 would pick them up, and there were just
some that only worked on the FHSS, so we are stuck with 3 operational
systems that all suck.

A little more power will buy us some time with the 320 where we can
deliver a 3/2 and occasional 6/2 reliably until global warming...erpp
climate change, burns off all the trees and turns us in the midwest into
a desert and we dont have to worry about foliage or rain fade anymore

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    So what are people using to replace their 3.65 WiMAX equipment like
    Cambium 320 and Purewave/Mercury?  Is Bai Cells the answer?  In any
    case, it seems like a forklift upgrade.  I would like to say some
    other frequency band, but what?  If not 900 MHz, it seems there is
    no unlicensed band that can do what we need.
    My original trip down the WiMAX rabbit hole was actually intended to
    be a preliminary step toward licensed 2.5 GHz, until I found out
    that was not feasible for us.  But now I’ve got a lonely Purewave
    basestation that I don’t want to add customers to, I don’t think the
    latest Mercury help, and I don’t know what to do with the existing
    customers.  Some are LOS so maybe the NLOS subs just need to go bye-bye?
    We are using Cambium 450 in 3.65 GHz and it is working out great for
    us as a 2.4 GHz replacement, but only for LOS or through a tree or
    two.  Can’t afford low modulation clients <4X.
    *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, August 02, 2016 2:43 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 320 Revisited
    one of the documents i was reading said 20% throughput loss from
    extended range, thats what i was asking about real word experience
    from, 320 documentation across the board was always questionable.
    I would love to not use it, but 320 was the (dont start the
    penetration argument) only thing at distance we could pick customers
    up through foliage to get them off 2.4fhss, even 900mhz wouldnt
    work, I assumed it was wimax and multipath that allowed it to happen
    On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com
    <mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        See attached link budget sheet. Back in the day, 5%-8% capacity
        loss was the number thrown around with extended range enabled.
        IMO, disable extended range and deny those distance subs. You'll
        increase your overall capacity as a result.
        On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 2:05 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
        <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>>
        wrote:

            at 10mhz we get 40 eirp correct?
            Anyone using the extended range know how much real world
            sector capacity loss we have? is the aggregate with loss on
            10mhz going to be less than the throughput at 7mhz?
            On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 9:35 AM, Eric Muehleisen
            <ericm...@gmail.com <mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                Yes, but there is an extended range config parameter
                that overcomes that limitation.
                On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 9:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm
                <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
                <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                    at 10 mhz isnt the max distance dramatically limited
                    over 7mhz?
                    On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Eric Muehleisen
                    <ericm...@gmail.com <mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

                        We do it like this...
                        A = 3655
                        B = 3682
                        C = 3669
                        D = 3695
                        It'll give you at least 1mhz separation between
                        sectors (which is required).
                        On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Paul McCall
                        <pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>> wrote:

                            Can the Cambium 320 radios operate in ABCD
                            fashion (10 Mhz channels using covering from
                            3650 to 3700) with 4 Cambium sectors?  I
                            know AABB with splitters is common and we
                            did some that way, but we had to remove
                            splitters to get extra gain in some areas. ____

                            ____

                            I seem to recall there was some “edge
                            issues” or something like that??   We always
                            lock the customer down to a given
                            frequency/basestation, for what that’s
                            worth.____

                            ____

                            Paul____

                            ____

                            Paul McCall, President____

                            PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.____

                            658 Old Dixie Highway____

                            Vero Beach, FL 32962____

                            772-564-6800 <tel:772-564-6800> ____

                            pa...@pdmnet.net <mailto:pa...@pdmnet.net>____

                            www.pdmnet.com <http://www.pdmnet.com>____

                            www.floridabroadband.com
                            <http://www.floridabroadband.com>____

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