I wish I could find normal cat5 on a spool. It takes less room in the service
vehicles and spools out smooth without kinks. But I can only find it in the
direct bury flavor. I made my guys some nice reel holders so they can put the
spool on its side and slide it under the shelves in their vans for payout. But
that is for the 7 conductor power cable we use to connect the ONTs. Be nice to
be able to do the same thing for CAT 5.
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 8:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com ; af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
If a cable is more durable, then it's longer before you have to go back and
replace it.
If a cable is less kinky and stiff, then it installs easier which saves labor.
We have to try to quantify and weigh these factors. It's not religion, it's
business.
There's also no harm in appreciating the good aspects of a design even if it's
something as mundane as cable.
------ Original Message ------
From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 8/5/2016 8:43:03 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
I could understand if we were all using CCA with non-uv rated cable with no
shield and installing the shit underwater, but given some of the price
differences for minimal gain, most of the cabling issues in my experience have
been related to inadequacies in installer training and not the cable itself -
or using staples... those people are the fucking devil.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote:
Cable is a serious deal.. I mean your network runs on it!
On Aug 5, 2016 6:28 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
I've never seen a level of religion in IT equivalent to the cable
religion on this list. It's kinda nuts.
On Aug 5, 2016 6:13 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
That's the 7919a and equivalent. Good cable, just a PITA. And
expensive. The foil tears easily. I like everything about the Shireen 1042 for
tower cable. Larger tinned stranded drain wire would be nice, but meh. The foil
is more than heavy enough and isn't brittle like the Belden/Best-Tronics stuff.
On 8/5/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Have you tried the Shireen DC-1042? It’s similar to Belden, but the
foil isn’t bonded to the jacket so you can actually fold it back. It has the
dry gel impregnated tape instead of the clear mylar in the Belden. Only thing
I miss maybe is the stranded drain wire. I forget which Belden version has
that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was the 7919a that
had the stranded drain wire.
The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming
across it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t use
it because they hate the goo. They do have to admit however when they go to a
10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well.
From: That One Guy /sarcasm
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden
on the residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the foil tears
and the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not green toughcable :-)
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Love you too Steve :-)
We do sell Primus, Belden, and Shireen as well if you would
rather use one of those cables.
Daniel White
Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
ConVergence Technologies
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
dwh...@converge-tech.com
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
/sarcasm
Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
belden something or other was the greatest
but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter
shit with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup
<geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
Shireen DC-1021
On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences
for residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably
pays out of a box.
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