If you think airlines and traffic control are “legacy” … you should look at 
some government systems out there - they make airlines look modern ;)


> On Aug 10, 2016, at 7:39 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> Ah, re-reading, you meant regular traffic control, not air traffic control 
> (which is what the thread was about).
> 
> Most of the same applies. Most lights are independent from the rest of the 
> system. There's no ability for the system to adjust timing based on system 
> demand. Those systems exist, but they're not deployed (or properly configured 
> if they are) most places.
> 
> Most traffic lights default to flashing red after a power outage. This is 
> singly one of the most retarded things they could do. When the power comes 
> back on, just do what you were already doing.
> 
> 
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> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:47:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure
> 
> So what makes traffic lights not efficient?
> 
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com 
> <mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
> You can still make a fire rubbing two sticks together, and that will work 
> forever.
> 
> It's not efficient though.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> You put up a light/module and it runs 24/7 for decades.  Sounds pretty 
> efficient to me.
> 
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> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> It's a mess, inefficient amazing it still works?
> 
> 
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> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2016 9:15:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure
> 
> Legacy isn't always bad.  Look at traffic control.
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> On Aug 9, 2016 10:12 PM, "Cameron Crum" <cc...@wispmon.com 
> <mailto:cc...@wispmon.com>> wrote:
> I have a good buddy who has been a air traffic controller for many years. He 
> was one of four guys brought into Baton Rouge after Katrina to work 18-20 
> hours for a month straight. He says you done't even want to know about the 
> "legacy" equipment in ATC. 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>wrote:
> Opps... There we go.. 
> 
> On Aug 9, 2016 8:00 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Salud a todos.... "Yanquis go home, gringas come here, ajuaaa!! "  Rancho El 
> Pino, Bustillos, Chihuahua.... 1966.
> 
> On Aug 9, 2016 6:12 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com 
> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> Airlines fly around clouds.
>  
> From: Travis Johnson <mailto:t...@ida.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2016 6:32 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Delta failure
>  
> They keep all their servers in the same central location?? You would think 
> someone the size of Delta would know better. They should look into this new 
> thing called "the cloud"... I've heard it's an up-and-coming new technology 
> that might really help them. LOL
> 
> Travis
> 
> 
> On 8/9/2016 5:18 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
> “According to the flight captain of JFK-SLC this morning, a routine scheduled 
> switch to the backup generator this morning at 2:30am caused a fire that 
> destroyed both the backup and the primary. Firefighters took a while to 
> extinguish the fire. Power is now back up and 400 out of the 500 servers 
> rebooted, still waiting for the last 100 to have the whole system fully 
> functional”
>  
> Many running on XP I am told.  “Server has been up for 6.3 years, never 
> reboot this server...”

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