Well, reflector dishes have their merits. I have upgraded from Trango, FSK, 430, 450 sometimes twice by just popping a new radio into the existing dish. I have changed frequencies. You can bring one radio for use as standalone “integrated” or if you don’t get the numbers you want, pop on a CLIP or use the same radio with a reflector dish. It also reduces the number of spares you need to keep in the truck for repairs. Another advantage over many of the integrated dish solutions is the mount provides independent adjustments for elevation and azimuth, which lends itself to better alignment, and reduces the need to hire 3-handed installers (or monkeys with prehensile tails).
Visually, one may look better to some, but the eye is so used to seeing satellite dishes that one more reflector dish goes unnoticed. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2016 7:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d So PMP finally joins what everyone else has been doing for 10 years? ----- Mike Hammett <http://www.ics-il.com/> Intelligent Computing Solutions <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> Midwest Internet Exchange <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> The Brothers WISP <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> _____ From: "Daniel White" <afmu...@gmail.com <mailto:afmu...@gmail.com> > To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 10:35:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d Cambium is moving towards EOL the reflectors from some of the roadmap stuff I’ve seen. I think the ePMP Force 200/450d type configuration and Force 180 design are here to stay. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve D Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2016 9:13 PM To: af <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d So over reflectors. Love to see lower priced versions of these and the reflector crap phased right out. On Sep 16, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists" <jeffl...@att.net <mailto:jeffl...@att.net> > wrote: That have an integrated 3.65 unit Timothy. It's only uncapped at this point, but it exists. C036045C014A. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 <tel:312-205-2519> Office 574-220-7826 <tel:574-220-7826> Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com <mailto:jbroadw...@converge-tech.com> On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Timothy Steele <timothy.pct...@gmail.com <mailto:timothy.pct...@gmail.com> > wrote: I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed designed dishes seems to work much better when under a tower also much more simple to mount on a tower I hope they do the same with 2.4 and 365 soon On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband <li...@smarterbroadband.com <mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com> > wrote: +1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d We love it! We have standardized on it -looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional -gain the same or 1-2db better -easier to assemble / align -less windload On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's because they don't like reflector dishes, or because of the 40M license key. Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna gain than the regular 450 SM plus a reflector dish, but the spec sheets say 25 dBi either way. What are people really seeing in the field? Is there a performance difference in an apples-to-apples comparison? How much? I'm not going to get too excited about 1 dB. Otherwise, we're looking at the connectorized 450 SM. Or the connectorized 450i SM, which is pretty pricey. <https://www.avast.com/en-us/lp-safe-emailing-2270-a?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2270-a> Virus-free. <https://www.avast.com/en-us/lp-safe-emailing-2270-a?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=oa-2270-a> www.avast.com
