The 5U is legal in the US, just restricted to 5ghz upper. In other markets
its allowed to be used in part of the 6GHz band.

On Oct 24, 2016 9:34 AM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Somebody here ought to point out that the biggest difference in
> performance between is that the AF-5 (I don't think the 5U is actually
> legal to use in the US, is it?) and the AF-5X is that the AF-5 is capable
> of doing full duplex, and can do quit a bit higher throughput because of
> that - of course it also has some pretty significant disadvantages, like
> being gigantic, using lots of power and being stuck with fairly low gain
> antennas.
>
> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Define “range sucks”.  I think radios with low OOBE get higher EIRP.  I
>> have a 16 mile AF5x link in U-NII-1 that doesn’t seem to suck.  I have been
>> using the little AF5x dishes at around 5 miles in U-NII-1 and again, no
>> suck.
>>
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>> Are you trying to do 40 miles or something?
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 9:22 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x
>>
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>>
>> Range on lower sucks. Also, the AF-U wouldn't support those. AF-5X would.
>>
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>> On Oct 24, 2016 9:14 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>> I think PTP links are narrow beams and carefully engineered.  On the
>> other hand some PTP radios allow auto frequency change.
>>
>>
>>
>> I would be very cautious about using those frequencies and make sure the
>> path isn’t inline with any TDWR sites no matter the distance.  For that
>> matter, I really don’t like the idea of using DFS frequencies for PTP
>> links, can you really afford the downtime for a false radar detect?  Do you
>> not have lower 5 GHz non-DFS frequencies available to use instead?
>>
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>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 24, 2016 8:57 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] AF-5U vs. AF-5x
>>
>>
>>
>> I am 60 miles from closest TDWR. I just thought it was odd that the AF5X
>> allows transmit on that freq but the PMP450 AP has those frequencies greyed
>> out. I figured that Cambium would be certified for more freqs than UBNT.
>> Maybe cambium just made that choice to make those freqs unavailable.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>> As long as you're at a safe distance yes.  I'm sure you're more than 30
>> km from me for the TDWR here.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2016 8:30 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Is AF5X legal to transmit on 5600-5650mhz? Firmware 3.2.1 allows it to be
>> selected. Is that a mistake?
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yeah, the U is upper band only.
>>
>> The AF-5 goes down to 5470 (if the datasheet is still accurate). Very
>> good antennas, but limited gain. 1024QAM. GPS sync. Good radio for the
>> money, as long as it works for your link distance.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2016 7:14 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I think one or two modulations.
>>
>> You can't do the lower frequencies on the U.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 24, 2016 8:05 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
>>
>> Is there any difference performance wise on these two?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the distance for full modulation on the *AF-5U*
>> <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF%2D5U&eq=&Tp=&o1=0>  ?
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the longest link (at decent modulation) on the *AF-5U*
>> <https://www.streakwave.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AF%2D5U&eq=&Tp=&o1=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> I understand that will vary quite a bit with the normal environmental
>> factors, but looking to get close on a comparison
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>> PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
>>
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>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800
>>
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>>
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