Oh, like UBNT and their “InnerFeed”.  Was never fond of that.  Especially the 
first versions which begged for water intrusion.

 

Seems like there would be some heat dissipation issues doing that with 450/450i 
electronics.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 5:38 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

 

The 110 and 450d is the sub-reflector assembly type. The Force200 took the 
electronics into the feed and dipole at the end.

On 10/24/2016 5:11 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

What’s the difference between Force 200 and 450d?  Cassegrain feed vs 
subreflector in radome?  Sheesh, make up your mind.  Is it a cost thing?

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 4:43 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

 

I believe that's the idea, yes. Be interesting to see how they cram all of the 
guts onto a board at the Force200 size integrated feed tube dipole setup. I 
guess it doesn't have to be exactly the same size.

Be nice if they kept sync-over-power capability to spin a PTP variant. Hint 
hint. That's one thing I wish the Force200 had. IMHO.

On 10/24/2016 4:16 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote:

I heard that the new 450i SM that will be end of 2017 will be possibly the 
Force 200 form factor and will be un-capped for $299.00

 

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

We’ll see if Matt or Aaron jumps in, but I suspect the answer is yes and no.  
The 450D definitely knows it’s an integrated antenna, the external gain field 
is locked, but likely that’s just something programmed into NV storage.  For 
more CPU horsepower, I suspect you want the 450i SM which AFAIK still comes 
only in connectorized and integrated panel versions and costs $$$.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Kurt Fankhauser
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 9:49 AM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

 

Does the 450D have the exact same internal PCB board has original 450SM's? 
Reason I am asking is does the 45D have capability of getting more throughput 
to each individual SM vs the original 450 which capped out at about 70mbps. I 
am wondering because with the extra wide channels coming with 450 (40mhz) can 
we expect more speed to the clients?

 

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 3:50 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com 
<mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Old thread but do you see 3db more signal with them vs a standard sm with 
reflector?

 

 

On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 11:51 AM, SmarterBroadband <li...@smarterbroadband.com 
<mailto:li...@smarterbroadband.com> > wrote:

We use them a lot.  Most installs.

Adam

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf 
Of Daniel White
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 8:13 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

 

Personally I like them.  Reflectors and the classic Canopy case SM’s are 
certainly more popular though.

 

There are a number of WISP’s that buy them though.  I think the 4 pack and only 
20Mbps/Unlimited keys turns some people off.

 

Daniel White

Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales

ConVergence Technologies

Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> 

 <mailto:dwh...@converge-tech.com> dwh...@converge-tech.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of timothy steele
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016 4:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] PMP450d vs reflector

 

Looks like power and gain are the same but the 450d has more of a narrow 
antenna pattern then using a dish so I would expect to see better results don't 
have 1 to try though..

 

On Tue, Jun 28, 2016, 5:55 PM Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net 
<mailto:jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote:

Someone bought one that's not government?

Jon Langeler
Michwave Technologies, Inc.

> On Jun 28, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:matt.mailingli...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Has anyone compared a PMP450d to a PMP450 5ghz SM with reflector?  I
> have a problem CPE I need just a bit more gain and wandered if that
> will get me over the hump.
>
> What about a 3.65 SM with reflector vs the PMP450 3.6 with integrated antenna?

 


 
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