Yeah the ones that we generally use are thicker (there are ones that aren't as thick) and can make running a ton of them through cable management sort of crappy.
On Thu, Oct 27, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > Cable management and sometimes airflow.They're much larger diameter than > sm or mm, require a larger bend radius than bend insensitive fiber, and you > can't exactly cut them to length. If you just have a few uplink DACs you > can make them work, but if you have a rack full of fiber strands and then > throw in a few dozen DACs, after awhile you're just like "this is > stupid..., brb grabbing some sfp+'s...". > > On Oct 27, 2016 9:31 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > >> How is a DAC harder to manage? >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, October 27, 2016 9:26:35 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time... >> >> Well, I used to like DACs. Not so much anymore. >> >> Some of it has to do with cable organization, and inventory is the other >> angle. >> >> Having transceivers and patches around is utilitarian. Having DACs around >> is slightly cheaper, but those DACs are much harder to deal with from a >> cable management perspective. >> >> I don't hate DACs, I just dislike the tradeoffs. >> >> On Oct 27, 2016 7:57 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> >>> Anything that doesn't support DACs is fucking worthless. >>> >>> >>> I've ditched all ad-block, privacy, etc. extensions. They're garbage. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 27, 2016 7:50:21 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti makes the big time... >>> >>> I complained about the DAC issue during the Alpha, as I just wanted to >>> plug in the switch to a Juniper MX960 and throw some of the VM load on it. >>> Sadly I ended up having to use short patch cables and fiberstore >>> transceivers, which worked fine. >>> >>> I didn't experience the crashes the author did, although I "whitelist" >>> all my hardware interfaces in my browser extensions... Maybe that was >>> his/her issue, I don't know. >>> >>> Side note: the was about 6 months back >>> >>> On Oct 27, 2016 7:33 AM, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote: >>> >>>> The good news: kit gets reviewed on a major IT website. >>>> The bad news: kit gets reviewed on a major IT website. >>>> >>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/10/27/ubiquiti_edgeswitch_review/ >>>> >>>> Mark >>>> >>> >>> >>