I firmly believe that having ranked choice voting  in place would encourage
more people to pay attention to all of their choices.  Because the system
empowers voters to be able to choose the candidates they actually want
without the risk of splitting the vote between similar candidates, I
believe people would spend a bit more time becoming aware of their choices
instead of picking the one they hate the most then voting for the other one.

Two examples in this cycle are Johnson and Sanders.  I believe that the
libertarian views that Johnson represented is shared large chunk of the
population.  I also believe that a lot of the views that Sanders has has
fairly wide appeal as well.   Who knows if either would have been elected,
but I know of a lot of people where one of those two would have been their
first choice.

On Nov 9, 2016 4:11 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

> The problem with the popular vote though, kind of comes back to what
> Jefferson said,
>
> "Convinced that the people are the only safe depositories of their own
> liberty, and that they are not safe unless enlightened to a certain degree,
> I have looked on our present state of liberty as a short-lived possession
> unless the mass of the people could be informed to a certain degree."
> --Thomas Jefferson to Littleton Waller Tazewell, 1805.
>
>
>
> 90% of the people in the country really don’t have an intelligent grasp of
> the issues and don’t have the critical thinking skills or the morals/ethics
> to do the right thing.  Just look at any man on the street interviews by
> both sides.  They are lucky to find one person who can even recognize a
> picture of the vice-president or have any clue who stands on what side of
> an issue.
>
>
>
> I’m for keeping the electoral college until that gets fixed and we can
> guarantee clean elections.  Terry McAuliffe giving 60,000 felons the right
> to vote days before an election and Barack Obama going on national TV
> telling illegal aliens to vote and there will be no repercussions doesn’t
> give me confidence that the popular vote is a good idea yet.  Not when one
> party is willing to break the law to win.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 9, 2016 8:00 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Vote
>
>
>
> Agreed. Hillary is up 160k with 98% reporting. Around 6 million third
> party votes...
>
>
>
> On Nov 9, 2016 8:54 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>
> This election is a perfect example of why the whole Electoral vote should
> be gone. I have been talking about this very issue for over 20 years, and
> this election is a prime example of a flawed system.
>
> I was a Trump supporter, like it or not. I was ready for a change, and
> could not stomach the thought of Hillary being the President. However, if
> the vote was actually based on the popular vote count, Hillary would be our
> new President.
>
> It's amazing how our political system has become so screwed up over the
> last 200 years. I am both excited and scared for the next four years.
>
> Travis
>

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