It's not 100% clear from your description, but the AF11x is
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 10/24/2016 4:28 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
I will take a crack at it... just to make sure that My understanding is
correct too.
In licensed radio world, the default lingo is as follows:- A single
channel is actually two channels, one channel is used to Transmit and the
other channel is used to receive. and each of these channels pair can be
either in V polarity or H polarity (but not mingled). XPIC is used to
describe a radio where you can mount two radios together, one using the H
polarity and the other using V polarity, but the same channel... But still only
one channel (H + V) is used to transmit and the other channel is used to
Receive. (Thus Full duplex)
MIMO...., = One Channel, both H & V polarities are used, and either one can
be used for Tx and Rx (thus half duplex)
AF11x = Traditional Licensed radio... one channel/polarity for TX and one
channel/polarity for RX Mimosa B11 = Disruptive... a very odd animal... can
be configured as... Use one channel
(both polarities) for TX and one channel (both polarities) for RX
or ... Use Two Channels, both polarities in each channel, and
use either one to TX & RX (more like a dual channel MIMO) AF5 = Uses one
channel (both polarities) for Tx and one channel (both polarities) for RX
AF24 = can be used as One Channel (Dual
Polarities) for TX and one Channel (Dual Polarities) for RX
or can use the same one channel (dual polarities) for Tx and
Rx.
Hope this is as clear as mud !
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
From: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 7:09:11 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system
What's so much different between XPIC and MIMO? I'm asking because I guess I'm
just ignorant. MIMO = single carrier (is OFDM implied?), dual streams? And XPIC
= dual carriers (is single-carrier QAM per channel implied?) and independent
streams that are aggregated in hardware, perhaps as simple as a LAG on the
internal switch? Or does XPIC add some more magic?
So then what is the UBNT AF11X considered? Or the AF5 and 24 for that matter
since they're also capable of FDD.
On 10/24/2016 5:23 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Can a non-vendor tell me if at higher order modulations if there's limiting
gain from co-channel XPIC? I assume it works to some degree because it's
marketed (yes, I have a tub of salt over here), but at some point the
modulations would be sensitive enough where the X-pol isolation isn't
sufficient?
Okay, a vendor can if they're more technical than salesy.
I'm not meaning to imply John was salesy.
;-)
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
Midwest Internet Exchange
The Brothers WISP
From: "John Seaman" <j...@trangosys.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Monday, October 24, 2016 3:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system
Hi Ken, the Lynx and Orion are largely identical. The biggest difference
between the two is that the Orion supports XPIC where as the Lynx does not.
Keep in mind that either model can be set up for 2+0, but only with the Orion
can both radios operate on the same channel. Other than that, the Orion does
offer higher TX power (for certain frequencies) compared to the Lynx. However
with 6 GHz, the TX frequency for Lynx and Orion are the same. Orion also
features SynchE/1588 functionality which is not found on the Lynx. Both models
now support buffer size up to 8 MB.
John Seaman | Sales | Trango Systems, Inc. |
+1-858-248-4006 | www.trangosys.com
Innovating Microwave Backhaul™
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Jeremy, I’m trying to remember, can you upgrade that Lynx to 2+0 with a
license key as long as you don’t need XPIC? Trango doesn’t spell it out very
well on their website, but it looks like the major differences between Lynx and
Orion are buffer size, XPIC, and maybe the interface and powering options? So
that you could still double the throughput as long as you can license a
different frequency pair for the other polarization. And the issue of the
wired interface speed. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of
Jeremy
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 10:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system I don't know who has the
biggest or best, but my 6GHz Trango Apex Lynx has been rock solid for going on
four years now. It does 700Mbps FDX. I believe that the Trango Orion has XPIC
up to 1.5Gbps in a 56Mhz channel. On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Josh
Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
Why in the world would they buy Exalt? On Oct 21, 2016 8:10 PM, "Jaime
Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
I thought Crisco bought out Exalt On Oct 21, 2016 5:10 PM, "Ken Hohhof"
<af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
I thought I got an ad recently from Exalt about a big sale through the end
of the year on Extreme Air 6Hz. Oops, I just found the email, and it’s
everything but 6 GHz. Not sure I’d buy Exalt anyway. Maybe someone else was
having an overstock sale on 6 GHz? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]
On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 5:50 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system First I have to find
out if there are channels in this area. Then I have a passive repeater to
deal with... Not a simple path to engineer. From: Daniel White
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 4:33 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:
[AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system Well you can only use 60MHz
channels max. That helps make it more competitive. 6GHz most likely
precludes higher modulations… you just won’t have the link budget. Also
depends if you’re going all outdoor orsplit-mount/all-indoor. I’d be shocked
if there is a winner here – I’d go with the solution your most comfortable
with. My guess is you will end up with Ceragon/Cambium or SIAE. DragonWave
Harmony Advanced is certainly worth a look, although I’m not sure about 6GHz
availability since it just started shipping. Chuck feel free to contact me
offlist and we could look at some things. Daniel White Managing Director –
Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf
Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 2:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Highest capacity 6 GHz system Who has the highest
capacity 6 GHz systems these days?
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