Bubbaproof ducting ...new product line.. I will take 2% of sales at cost... Contract on its way.
On Nov 17, 2016 12:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > In that case, duct minimized the damage and makes repair much quicker and > cheaper. > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 12:32 PM > *To:* Animal Farm > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost > > > We have Bubbas... They cut fiber with tractor.... Happened several times > to TWC and Espire in two years > > On Nov 17, 2016 12:29 PM, "Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I don't think I have gophers either. >> Woodchucks, rats, field mice, rabbits, voles, moles...burrowing rodents >> come in many flavors. >> >> >> ------ Original Message ------ >> From: "Chris Fabien" <ch...@lakenetmi.com> >> To: af@afmug.com >> Sent: 11/17/2016 1:19:24 PM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost >> >> >> If you have gophers and duct prevents that I suppose that's worth the >> cost. >> >> We do not have gophers in Michigan. We put everything direct buried in >> rural areas. In some cases we may plow in 12ct cable down a mile of road >> with only a few obstacles that need to be bored. That's about $1000 of >> cable. A mile of innerduct is about $2000 in material and is a big product >> to plow if you're plowing, or has to be drilled in (more expensive). >> >> In town we run duct, mainly because there are enough obstacles that we >> have to drill it all anyway. There are certainly benefits to duct, but it >> adds a lot of cost when you're looking at a rural area with maybe 10 houses >> per mile. Just my opinion, worth what you paid for it! >> >> Chris Fabien >> LakeNet LLC >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >> >>> I would never do direct again. Gopher damage. Doesn’t happen with >>> duct. >>> Plus with duct you can cut and pull out and go over and under anytime >>> you want. Saves in splicing and figure 8 ing etc. >>> Duct is worth the extra expense. And it is not really that expensive. >>> >>> *From:* Mark Radabaugh >>> *Sent:* Thursday, November 17, 2016 6:14 AM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost >>> >>> Duct or direct plow makes a difference. Direct is cheaper but damage >>> is much harder, takes longer to repair, and increases your maintenance cost >>> over time. With direct bury you have no ability to pull slack or add new >>> handholes for access. In the event of a fiber cut without duct the repair >>> usually involves exposing 100’ of cable on either side of the damage and >>> splicing in a new section of cable which will require double the number of >>> splices and splice cases versus duct where you can pull spare cable in. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2016, at 8:03 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> All ROW are already in place. Few road crossings in rural areas but in >>> cities close to standard numbers of road crossings. >>> >>> On Thu, Nov 17, 2016, 6:53 AM <fiber...@mail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Just don't forget that there will be costs not related to construction >>>> both before and after. >>>> >>>> Some of them are onetime costs, not related to mileage like planning, >>>> permits and the like. This is one reason costs are all over the map, >>>> because it depends on how many miles you can spread fixed prebuild costs. >>>> >>>> Others are ongoing costs which will keep eating at you, even after you >>>> finish construction. Various reporting requirements and paperwork, locates, >>>> repairs, maintenance, etc. Even when you have a brand new plant you have to >>>> budget for OPEX. >>>> >>>> Jared >>>> >>>> >>>> > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 at 2:27 PM >>>> > From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> >>>> > To: af@afmug.com >>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Cost >>>> > >>>> > All over the place. 10k to 200k depending location. Rural >>>> direct plowed in good soil with no duct and nothing in the way? 12k is >>>> about as low as I have seen quoted. Road crossings, boring, rock, urban, >>>> rail crossings, pipeline crossings will all add to that number. >>>> > >>>> > Mark >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > On Nov 17, 2016, at 5:52 AM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> > > >>>> > > I know we have discussed this before but I wanted a current cost >>>> for backhaul fiber per mile in the ground. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >>
