Well I guess it's only 6db more to get to 200 miles.

I followed links to the application and they're talking about Ku and Ka bands. That's as far as I'm going to read during the work day. I'm still curious how much tx you would need your CPE to get a useable uplink path to the satellite, and how big of an antenna.



------ Original Message ------
From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 11/17/2016 2:39:13 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Space X, Satellite internet 1 GBPS, FCC

At 100 miles, I would think that the decay rate would be too high. Usable, low-maintenance LEO would probably start around 200 miles, but IANARS (I am not a rocket scientist).



bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 11/17/2016 11:36 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
....yeah but GPS doesn't need an uplink.

So if you have an antenna of similar size and shape to one of those cone shaped GPS antennas, how much tx power do you need to hit sats in LEO? That's at least a hundred miles up isn't it?



------ Original Message ------
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Sent: 11/17/2016 11:53:49 AM
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They won't need to be south-facing. With 4,000 of them, they'll be everywhere going everywhere. I'd think like GPS.



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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:52:04 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Space X, Satellite internet 1 GBPS, FCC

Article says client side antennas will be phased array to track the sats, also that the sats will communicate with each other.



Seems to me even with all those sats, talking about gigabit service to customers is a bit of marketing hype.



Speaking of marketing, that would seem to be the key, how will they market this? Unless the target market is the same people who bought Iridium phones.



SpaceX does not have a natural existing marketing vehicle for Internet service, I assume they will need partners or resellers. That is the advantage a Verizon, AT&T or DISH has – millions of existing customers they can advertise to, and offer bundle deals to.



Satellite does have a natural appeal to the “nothing on my house” people, you can stick the antenna on a short pole in the yard. Still not a great solution for the apartment and condo dwellers without south facing balconies, they want indoor wireless modems. I am assuming the LEO orbits will still be in the southern sky like GPS sats, maybe that is wrong and they will whiz overhead in all directions?





From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:10 AM
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I didn’t see what frequencies they are using.

Earth stations would need to track them I would think.



From: Tushar Patel

Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 7:00 AM

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http://www.businessinsider.com/spacex-internet-satellite-constellation-2016-11




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