I just happened to be at a property today where they were install a new
smartmeter. The Tech confirmed that they do have the ability to cut to
the power to the house from the meter.
On 1/3/2017 9:42 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Good news: would probably trip the breaker
Bad news: probably not fast enough
More bad news: that kind of voltage would probably arc right across the
opening breaker contacts
Maybe there's a fuse for that. Like the ones up on poles that you reset with a
hot stick.
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2017 9:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
I doubt it. Much more energy involved when a primary gets into a secondary.
Not short duration impulses like lightning.
-----Original Message-----
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2017 6:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
Would one of those 'Whole Home Surge Protectors' Protect against something like
this?
On 1/2/2017 6:21 PM, Robert wrote:
When I was living in Santa Cruz we had a situation where the wind hit
exactly the right direction at exactly the right speed and stayed there.
The lines started swaying harmonically. Larger and larger loops until
they crossed. At that point ( I was watching it happen from bed out the
back window) it got interesting in the house with every active circuit
with any resistance going bright red. I looked down at a power strip the
old style cream colored one and the whole interior was bright orange. I
was doing X10 at the time and they popped like popcorn around the house...
The wires stayed wrapped and I think a pole mounted breaker blew and
everything went dark.. The sound when they crossed was very loud.
Amazingly I described what happened to PG&E they said take everything
smoked to their office and they wrote me a check right there and then..
About $1500 which at the time was four months rent...
On 1/2/17 3:55 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
We had a situation where the center tap on a local distribution
transformer got crossed with one of the phases. It resulted in one
phase going to ground potential, and the second phase going to ~~ 220 volts.
Everything 110V on the dead phase was unaffected (because it was
dead), and everything 110V on the other phase got fried (because it
was at 220V).
I had gotten up that morning, and I heard our pool pump kick on,
which was a 220V motor wired between phases. Sounded like a "normal" morning.
Walking through the family room on the way to the kitchen, I flipped
on the light, and POP! The light in the family room literally exploded.
Weird I thought, but the pool pump is running normally.... Not having
had my coffee infusion yet, I proceeded to the kitchen. I flipped on
the kitchen lights and POP! another light bulb explosion. Now it had
my attention.
I went into the garage, and grabbed my DVM (making sure not to turn
anything on). Going around the house I found some outlets dead, and
some reading 220V. When I encountered the first one at 220V, my next
stop was the main panel, where I flipped off the main breaker.
bp
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On 1/2/2017 3:16 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK, had not consider primaries getting into the drop. Yeah, that
could kill everything similar to what she is describing.
I am wondering if you hit a light bulb with enough voltage to
vaporize the filament will it over pressure the envelope enough to explode?
*From:* George Skorup
*Sent:* Monday, January 02, 2017 4:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
Must have forgot their tin-foil towels.
I don't know what the voltage would have to be to jump a light
switch, but I can tell you that I've seen it. A few years ago, a
tree fell in my sister's neighbor's yard and knocked the primaries
down on top of her secondaries. So that was at least 12-13kV. It was
ugly. Whole house had to be rewired.
On 1/2/2017 12:58 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
*that device knows I woke up to my cell phone alarm at 7 this
morning, brewed myself a cup of coffee at 7:10, and another at
7:25,.and another at 8. Then, I took a shower for 10 minutes and
washed dishes after that. *
*From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
*Sent:* Monday, January 2, 2017 11:55 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
Seriously...
When they publish things like this:
"With that flash, every lightbulb in my house had exploded! The
old lightbulbs merely popped and shattered. Those new lightbulbs
(CFLs) were on fire! I could see smoke, smell burning plastic. I
had no idea what happened."
So, every lightbulb was on? If not the overvoltage jumped the
switch? How much of an overvoltage event does it take to make a
lightbulb pop like you see in movies? I have never seen it happen.
Especially difficult when the switch is off.
All this happened because of a smart meter?
And later:
"All the while I was experiencing more electrical issues and
finding more damage. The craziest thing that occurred was I
literally was shocked getting into the shower! I went to grab the
nozzle to direct the water down and when I grabbed it, I
literally got a jolt of electricity, my hand stuck, my knees
buckled and down I went. I didn’t take a shower after that,
needless to say.
When I came downstairs, I heard water and could hear popping. The
main water line from my well had exploded and electricity was
sparking from it."
http://www.dcclothesline.com/2015/06/27/smart-meters-fire-living-he
ll-and-bureaucratic-messes/
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2017 11:41 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smartmeter Security question
Seth, was that meant to be tongue-in-cheek?
http://emfsafetynetwork.org/smart-meters/smart-meter-fires-and-expl
osions/
On 01/02/2017 10:25 AM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
On 1/2/17 09:39, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Well, I guess if they change out the socket when they change the
meter,
they could put a big ass contactor in there.
Note the statement uses the future tense “will have remote
switching
capabilities”. Like cars will have the ability to fly...
I suppose the other option would be SCRs, but there's heat issues
with
those as they get bigger. An SCR could start an electrical fire
if it
overheated.
~Seth
