Right, if the spectrum is available, they'll be using 2x 80 MHz and getting 
hella throughput. 

As far as the AF11's inefficiency? The world may never know. Right, a Lumina 
with the same specs, but short on QAM is doing 732 megs as opposed to UBNT's 
600. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 




----- Original Message -----

From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> 
To: "af" <af@afmug.com> 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:00:50 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience 



Yeah, but if the spectrum is available, most people are going to be running the 
B11 on two 80mhz channels, both directions, so it'll theoretically do about 
double that (one direction... but not both directions at the same time, since 
they are half duplex radios... ) 

I still don't understand why the AF11 can only do 600Mbps... our old SAF Lumina 
can do 366Mbps on one polarity in the same size channel, and only do 256QAM. 



On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




I'll go with two polarities as I think that's the only way the B11 can run. 
I'll go with what they spec it out to. 

AF11x: 428 
B11: 390 
820c (same as IP20c): 694 


The costs can't even compare, though. You could build a whole network of B11s 
for the price of an 820c link. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:17:29 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience 


What's the Nurburgring time for an F-250, a Grand Caravan and a Ferrari? 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Jon Langeler" < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:14:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience 


What's the one way throughout of Mimosa vs AF11x vs IP20 in 40Mhz? 


Jon Langeler 
Michwave Technologies, Inc. 



On Jan 12, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 


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At 40 MHz and a single polarity, you're looking at an almost insignificant 
increase in throughput. 

Their claim is 1.2 gb+. 
Cut that in half as they're advertising the aggregate, so 600 mb+. 
That's using both polarities, so now only 300 mb+. 
Only I haven't heard of anyone getting much more than 500 in a single direction 
(they may certainly exist, I just haven't seen them), so now that 300 is really 
only 250. 


Not much of an upgrade unless you can also get larger channels in both 
polarities. 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 






From: "Josh Baird" < joshba...@gmail.com > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience 


This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do 
228Mbps full-duplex. The AF11x should be able to do much more than that, right? 


On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Gino Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 

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IIRC, PTP800 is Remec Style, you'll need Remec to N connector adapters (AF11x 
is N) 


What do you expect to achieve with this upgrade? Not much capacity difference 
between PTP800 and AF11x, maybe 50-80- mbps more. Only if you have a xpic 
license you can double your throughput with the af11x 


From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com 
> 
Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:12 AM 
To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience 





Good news - thanks for sharing. 


Somewhat un-related question: 


I have a PTP-800 link using these dishes: 


http://www.hol4g.com/AC/product.aspx?number=ANC-VHLP3-11W-RR1&p=237127&sc=0 



Do you know if I can re-use these dishes with the AF11x? Do I need adapters? 


Josh 




        

Gino Villarini 
        President 
        Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

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On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Gino Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: 

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Hey all, just dropping by to share our experience with AF11x, we habe been beta 
testing the unit since Sept and for the last 3 months, the unit has been rock 
solid. 

We are very happy with its performance, just wished it had a SFP port! 

This unit replaced a Mimosa B11 unit that we were having some intermitent 
throughtput issues, 

The swap was easy since we reused the Jirous Dishes and only had to add the 
af11x adapters to it, 

The link went live on 9/21/16 and on the first weeks we experienced some 
lockups, but after a revised beta fw was applied, all issues went away. 

For UBNT, please add SFP port and continue the good work towards a af6x and 
af18x 

        

Gino Villarini 
        President 
        Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 

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