It'd be nice to hear from UBNT, but I suspect that won't happen. They'll insist theirs is more efficient than a Lumina because it moves more bits in a given channel size, ignoring the additional polarity usage.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:11:32 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience Is it OFDM? Overhead? (cyclix prefix, pilot tones, etc.) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:05 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience Right, if the spectrum is available, they'll be using 2x 80 MHz and getting hella throughput. As far as the AF11's inefficiency? The world may never know. Right, a Lumina with the same specs, but short on QAM is doing 732 megs as opposed to UBNT's 600. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > To: "af" < af@afmug.com > Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 6:00:50 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience Yeah, but if the spectrum is available, most people are going to be running the B11 on two 80mhz channels, both directions, so it'll theoretically do about double that (one direction... but not both directions at the same time, since they are half duplex radios... ) I still don't understand why the AF11 can only do 600Mbps... our old SAF Lumina can do 366Mbps on one polarity in the same size channel, and only do 256QAM. On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: I'll go with two polarities as I think that's the only way the B11 can run. I'll go with what they spec it out to. AF11x: 428 B11: 390 820c (same as IP20c): 694 The costs can't even compare, though. You could build a whole network of B11s for the price of an 820c link. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:17:29 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience What's the Nurburgring time for an F-250, a Grand Caravan and a Ferrari? ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Jon Langeler" < jon-ispli...@michwave.net > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 5:14:47 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience What's the one way throughout of Mimosa vs AF11x vs IP20 in 40Mhz? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. On Jan 12, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> At 40 MHz and a single polarity, you're looking at an almost insignificant increase in throughput. Their claim is 1.2 gb+. Cut that in half as they're advertising the aggregate, so 600 mb+. That's using both polarities, so now only 300 mb+. Only I haven't heard of anyone getting much more than 500 in a single direction (they may certainly exist, I just haven't seen them), so now that 300 is really only 250. Not much of an upgrade unless you can also get larger channels in both polarities. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Josh Baird" < joshba...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2017 11:47:42 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience This PTP800 is only capable of running at 40Mhz (ODU-A) so it can only do 228Mbps full-duplex. The AF11x should be able to do much more than that, right? On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Gino Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: <blockquote> IIRC, PTP800 is Remec Style, you'll need Remec to N connector adapters (AF11x is N) What do you expect to achieve with this upgrade? Not much capacity difference between PTP800 and AF11x, maybe 50-80- mbps more. Only if you have a xpic license you can double your throughput with the af11x From: Af < af-boun...@afmug.com > on behalf of Josh Baird < joshba...@gmail.com > Reply-To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > Date: Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:12 AM To: " af@afmug.com " < af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Our UBNT AF11x experience Good news - thanks for sharing. Somewhat un-related question: I have a PTP-800 link using these dishes: http://www.hol4g.com/AC/product.aspx?number=ANC-VHLP3-11W-RR1&p=237127&sc=0 Do you know if I can re-use these dishes with the AF11x? Do I need adapters? Josh Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 8:07 AM, Gino Villarini < g...@aeronetpr.com > wrote: <blockquote> Hey all, just dropping by to share our experience with AF11x, we habe been beta testing the unit since Sept and for the last 3 months, the unit has been rock solid. We are very happy with its performance, just wished it had a SFP port! This unit replaced a Mimosa B11 unit that we were having some intermitent throughtput issues, The swap was easy since we reused the Jirous Dishes and only had to add the af11x adapters to it, The link went live on 9/21/16 and on the first weeks we experienced some lockups, but after a revised beta fw was applied, all issues went away. For UBNT, please add SFP port and continue the good work towards a af6x and af18x Gino Villarini President Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968 <aeronet-logo_310cfc3e-6691-4f69-bd49-b37b834b9238.png> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
