Well.... Forest did a very nice product at one time that would do exactly that. 
 I think many hope he revives that project.

From: Jesse DuPont 
Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 9:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want

Does anyone have a document or wiki that describes how to take an off-the-shelf 
AC standby generator and use it at a solar/DC site? I'm assuming starting would 
be via remotely-operated or conditional-logic-operated relay based on battery 
voltage? Anyone done it and care to share the nitty gritty?


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On 2/3/17 9:02 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  And on a standby generator, if it is a true DC generator the brushes will 
last forever.  But it is probably an alternator/rectifier.  
  AC generator with redundant rectifiers is bound to be the best value.  

  From: Adam Moffett 
  Sent: Friday, February 3, 2017 8:56 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want

  However you get there, the nice thing about DC is you don't have to stay at 
3600 RPM.  It's a big part of why inverter generators last so long on small 
loads. 


  ------ Original Message ------
  From: "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 2/3/2017 10:29:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want

    From an engineering standpoint I would expect a DC generator to be higher 
maintenance than an AC generator.   True DC generators have brushes that wear 
while AC generators have very little other than bearings to wear out.   
Alternators (like your car has) are actually AC generators with a rectifier 
pack to turn the AC back into DC.  When your alternator bites the dust about 
half the time it’s the rectifier that fails, the other half of the time it’s 
the bearings, with a small percentage of winding or other failures (yeah - I 
know that’s more than 100%).

    Our high reliability sites have standby AC generators with 500 gal propane 
tanks, a rectifier shelf, and ~24 hours of batteries.  So far they have been 
very reliable.

    Mark 

      On Feb 2, 2017, at 5:45 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

      Well, it certainly would protect you in the event of rectifier failure.  

      From: That One Guy /sarcasm 
      Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:44 PM
      To: af@afmug.com 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want

      if youre doing a standby generator at a dc site, even an AC fed DC site, 
wouldnt it be more efficient to use a dc generator, with less maintenance?

      On Thu, Feb 2, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

        Ah yes, I see.


        ------ Original Message ------
        From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
        To: af@afmug.com
        Sent: 2/2/2017 5:28:39 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want

          Perfect for off-grid solar backup.  

          From: Adam Moffett 
          Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2017 3:27 PM
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] I Want

          Man, sounds like a lot of money for 6kW.

          Variable speed must save a lot of gas though.


          ------ Original Message ------
          From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com>
          To: af@afmug.com
          Sent: 2/2/2017 5:25:35 PM
          Subject: [AFMUG] I Want

            Have to come up with a reason but I want it:
            
https://www.norwall.com/products/Kohler-6kW-Variable-Speed-Direct-Current-Generator-with-Oil-Make-Up-Kit-48-Volt-DC-6VSG?cid=google_feed&dfw_tracker=6374-6VSG-QS13&gclid=COWuo4-68tECFUdlfgodl8oG_A




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