We do only IPv4 public and IPv6 public IP direct to consumer device.

I think if someone came up with an affordable hosted product that provided nice 
stats and a good looking interface, there would be lots of interest.

I have no idea what my traffic actually looks like right now other than Mbps 
in/out.

Affordable to me is a $100-$200 a month per 1000 customers for this.

I don’t have any idea what the bandwidth cost on netflow is average per 100Mbps 
of traffic analyzed though.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Cameron Crum
Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 7:45 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

We've batted this around as a product to offer - more of a feature add on to 
Wispmon, but it could be stand alone as well. Very basic, just ip and traffic 
counts, but for tracking usage what else do you need?. A large portion was done 
and then we got pulled away to more important things as we only have one 
customer who uses netflow now anyway. One question, because this makes a 
difference for hosted applications, are your customers on private or public 
IPs? One issue we would run into would be private ip reuse. If, for some 
reason, you used the same private space on two different network segments, it 
would be a more complex program as we would now have to know more information 
about each ip. If that is not a concern, then it becomes simpler. If this is a 
needed product, we would be happy to continue development of it. I'm just not 
sure it something with mass appeal.

On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 8:26 AM, Stefan Englhardt 
<s...@genias.net<mailto:s...@genias.net>> wrote:
We see UBNT building a new billing system which integrates netflow for 
accounting. I see no extensive reporting/statistics in their demo so far.

I guess it makes sense to do accounting with the same data used for analysis …



Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] Im Auftrag 
von Erich Kaiser
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. Februar 2017 14:57
An: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Netflow

ntop(Is actually really stable compared to past versions), observium, 
solarwinds, we run all of them.  Each helps with specific issues/needs.


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
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On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 7:38 PM, Sterling Jacobson 
<sterl...@avative.net<mailto:sterl...@avative.net>> wrote:
What are your opinions on Netflow servers/software?

I've been doing some research into using Netflow again.
Long time ago I used NTOP, but it sucked.
Not sure if that's changed or not.

Ideally would be a much newer improved interface type system that was hosted 
for a few bucks a month.
Then I could just sign up and point my Netflow streams to it.

I need one that is geared towards ISPs, not Datacenter/Servers.

I don't care about netflowing and optimizing web sites, I want to profile my 
customer traffic.
Ideally it would include features necessary for CALIA and law enforcement 
requirements.

If it was also great at syslog management that would be a plus.

The Dude currently sucks for syslog IMO.


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