I have Calix and am currently demo’ing Kentik.   
Calix is awesome at drilling down to the customer level (but it’s got Java).
Kentik is awesome to look at the global picture and drilling down to AS, path 
or upstream interfaces.



> On Feb 7, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
> 
> I can't imagine Calix's solution to be the same type of product as Kentik, 
> good or bad.
> 
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> From: "Jesse DuPont" <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net 
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> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 7, 2017 9:59:18 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflow
> 
> Calix's Compass is actually really good. It's hosted, priced based on 
> endpoints (not quantity of exporters), great categorization (i.e. Netflix, 
> Youtube, etc). They also do endpoint to customer mapping from various sources 
> (DHCP option-82, RADIUS, their own management platform, etc.).
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> On 2/7/17 8:51 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:
> Depends on flow volumes and stuff.. talked to them at NANOG and conference 
> calls … 
> 
> For a low volume shop they seem to have a slick solution - only seen a brief 
> demo.  However, depending on volume they do not scale “well” - we were told 
> that we would need several racks of servers to deal with volume :(
> 
> Arbor Peakflow is the best product out there hands down … but it’s well into 
> 6 figures so your budget may not support it ….
> 
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:05 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
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> I haven't received a quote myself, but I hear it's a few hundred a month.
> 
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> From: "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com <mailto:c...@infowest.com>>
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> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 8:04:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflow
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> How much?
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net 
> <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
> 
> Kentik is the cat's ass, though it's not a few bucks a month.
> 
> 
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> From: "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net <mailto:sterl...@avative.net>>
> To: "af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
> Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 7:38:27 PM
> Subject: [AFMUG] Netflow
> 
> What are your opinions on Netflow servers/software?
> 
> I've been doing some research into using Netflow again.
> Long time ago I used NTOP, but it sucked.
> Not sure if that's changed or not.
> 
> Ideally would be a much newer improved interface type system that was hosted 
> for a few bucks a month.
> Then I could just sign up and point my Netflow streams to it.
> 
> I need one that is geared towards ISPs, not Datacenter/Servers.
> 
> I don't care about netflowing and optimizing web sites, I want to profile my 
> customer traffic.
> Ideally it would include features necessary for CALIA and law enforcement 
> requirements.
> 
> If it was also great at syslog management that would be a plus.
> 
> The Dude currently sucks for syslog IMO.

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