Also, what about this...

http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/plan-a-protest-lose-your-house-arizona-senate-passes-sb-1142-charging-provocateurs-with-racketeering-9109154

On Friday, February 24, 2017, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> I thought the top story was Spicer saying they will crackdown at the
> Federal level more on rec marijuana? I mean, it's only funding schools,
> creating jobs, and paying for roads in Colorado... No big deal.
>
> On Feb 24, 2017 5:39 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote:
>
>> Something is wrong when the top news story today is Spicey banning some
>> major news outlets from his WH press conference.  Not that it isn’t
>> disturbing, but …
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, does anybody care about the story that North Korea is believed to
>> have carried out an assassination in a Malaysian airport using VX?  And it
>> is believed they purposely did it in a way to demonstrate to the world and
>> especially the U.S. their capability and willingness to use the banned
>> chemical weapon?  Oh, and to piss off their only two friends in the world,
>> Malaysia and China.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kim Jong Un is probably wondering, what do I have to do to make the front
>> page?  I launched a ballistic missile toward Japan while Trump was meeting
>> with the PM of Japan.  Then I had my half brother assassinated in public in
>> a foreign airport using 2-part (battlefield weaponized) VX nerve agent.
>> And all the Americans care about is speeches at CPAC and who was disinvited
>> to Spicey’s press conference.  And whether Dippin Dots are the ice cream of
>> the future.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of 
>> *Forrest
>> Christian (List Account)
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 5:19 PM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> You've hit on a lot of my frustration with the R's and D's.
>>
>>
>>
>> Add to that the fact that they have convinced the american public that
>> the only viable option is either an 'R' or a 'D' and you pretty much sum it
>> up.
>>
>>
>>
>> For the record, I didn't vote for either a 'R' or a 'D' the last
>> election.   I hoped to be part of the solution where we consider other
>> alternatives as well.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@kwisp.com');>> wrote:
>>
>> There was an episode of the Star Trek TV series titled “Let That Be Your
>> Last Battlefield” about two warring aliens that appeared identical except
>> one was black on one side and white on the other, while the other was the
>> reverse.  The difference was all important to the aliens, but the
>> Enterprise crew could hardly tell them apart.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think of that when people immediately identify someone as left or
>> right, Democrat or Republican, Shia or Sunni.  As if their faces were
>> painted a certain way so you can immediately tell.  And once you know their
>> political party or religious sect, that’s all you need to know.  TV is that
>> way, if they are interviewing someone, the most important thing is to have
>> a graphic that tells you if they are a D or R.  It’s like a sporting event,
>> you need to know what team someone is on, and then can cheer or boo
>> accordingly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Our political parties take themselves way too seriously, they seem to
>> believe people are born either D or R and that party owns them.  The
>> parties don’t seem capable of running capable candidates for office and
>> governing well in order to earn votes.  But when they eek out an election
>> victory, they proclaim it a landslide and believe they have a mandate.
>> Rather than accept that voters hated the other guys a little more.  This
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s kind of ironic with Trump and Putin in the news, neither of whom
>> really care about ideology, it’s all about power and personality.  Yet we
>> still want it to be a story about left vs right, my party vs your party.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *
>> ch...@wbmfg.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 9:51 AM
>>
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeahbut they are democrats so they are leftists so they are inherently
>> truthful and trustyworthy...
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Adam Moffett
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 24, 2017 7:45 AM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> The statements come from representatives of the "Sweden Democrats"
>> party.  Skim the wikipedia article about who they are.
>>
>>
>>
>> Some choice quotes:
>>
>> "The party had its roots in Swedish fascism[15]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-r1089-15> and
>> was a part of the white supremacy
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_supremacy> movement;[16]
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-telegraphboots-16>
>> "
>>
>> "The Sweden Democrats, however, remain isolated in the Riksdag because
>> the other parties are staunchly maintaining a policy of refusing
>> cooperation <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordon_sanitaire#In_politics> with
>> them.[25] <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_Democrats#cite_note-25>"
>>
>> "The Sweden Democrats believe that the current Swedish immigration
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Sweden> and integration
>> policies have been a failure. They oppose integration because they believe
>> that integration involves "meeting in the middle" and do not think that the 
>> indigenous
>> Swedish people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedes> should have to
>> bear the burden "
>>
>>
>>
>> The section on ideologies is interesting too.  They might as well have
>> "Make Sweden Great Again" hats.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>>
>> From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@wbmfg.com');>>
>>
>> To: af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>
>> Sent: 2/23/2017 4:15:29 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> My only point is, Trump made one of his typical off-the-cuff/out his ass
>> utterances, he was excoriated by the left press.
>>
>> Now it seems there was something of substance behind his comment.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:12 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Sweden has accepted something like 25 times as many refugees per capita
>> than the U.S.  And they have been mostly men who can’t find work.  Whereas
>> the U.S. accepts mostly women and children, who have been heavily screened,
>> and there are usually communities willing to help them integrate.  I’m not
>> sure why we are wanting to point fingers at Sweden and make some political
>> issue of this.
>>
>>
>>
>> Why not instead look for a model of how to do this right?  By all
>> accounts, Canada is very good at this, with families virtually adopting
>> refugees and helping them resettle and integrate into Canadian society.
>>
>>
>>
>> Just be happy we get some choice unlike Europe which doesn’t have the
>> Atlantic ocean between them and disasters like Syria.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>> McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 2:48 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> One for Jaime:
>>
>> http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/02/23/sweden-democrats-
>> trump-was-right.html
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:42 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh, and I had a business partner for 30 years that was trans.... yes  I
>> have known trans people....
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof
>>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:33 PM
>>
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Once you know someone who is transgender, it turns out not to be like
>> that at all.  There are exceptions to everything, but if the first thing
>> that comes to your mind is identifying as a girl to shower with the girls,
>> then probably you don’t have any friends or relatives that are
>> transgender.  Well, that is unlikely, more likely you just don’t know they
>> are trans.
>>
>>
>>
>> And school kids unfortunately take the brunt of this.  Anywhere else, are
>> there really going to be bathroom police checking birth certificates?
>> There’s a creepy thought.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af-boun...@afmug.com');>] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>> McCown
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 23, 2017 1:52 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');>
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT trolling
>>
>>
>>
>> Bored.
>>
>> If this was mid 1970s and if I discovered that the president said I could
>> shower with the girls at school it I “identified as a girl”, I sure as hell
>> would have identified as a girl....
>>
>>
>>
>> I have not heard a single commentator address this issue.  Boys will be
>> boys.  What do the lgbtqrstuv folks have as an answer to this situation?
>>
>>
>>
>> They don’t seem to be interested in protecting the rights of my
>> granddaughter to not have the boy’s football team in there after volleyball
>> practice.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>>
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