"Green complimented iMessage for using “end-to-end encryption” dating back
to 2011, but unfortunately it appears as though Apple uses the term quite
loosely. True end-to-end encryption would keep messaging conversations
between only those participating internally. Apple’s protection of iMessage
does not extend to the server, leaving a gap in its defenses."

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On Feb 25, 2017 1:43 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> wrote:

> I see nothing in that article that says iMessages are stored unencrypted
> on Apples servers, which is what you initial stated.
>
> I do see it state: "If a hacker were to take hold of the key server, they
> would in turn be able to intercept messages as they are being typed — those
> that have not already undergone the encryption process.”
>
> However, the same with anything using a key encryption.  If someone has
> your device key, wouldn’t they be able to decrypt your messages?
>
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/despite-apples-push-
> for-encryption-imessage-remains-insecure/
>
> On Feb 25, 2017 1:35 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure I agree with that. Just reading up on this article from
>> August of last year:
>>
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/imessage-weak-encryption-ma
>> tthew-green,32466.html
>>
>> Couple of points from the article:
>>
>> - Undelivered messages *ARE* stored encrypted on Apples servers for up
>> to 30 days.  Sure someone with the appropriate key can decrypt them. That’s
>> nothing new.
>> - Cloud backups store your messages, they’re encrypted.. and supposedly
>> Apple can decrypt them? Or not?  If you’re a terrorist and/or extra
>> paranoid, turn them off or use WhatsApp.. Oh wait, don’t they have a
>> backdoor? :)
>> - They say iMessage is “Not any better than normal TLS”.. well, it’s
>> encrypted. Better than not!
>> -  From this it also appears Apple implemented most of their short-term
>> vulnerability patches for old clients.
>>
>> I assume if both sides of the conversation are running the latest iOS
>> version, then they’re much more “secure” than running older un-patched
>> ones.
>> Just be sure to patch both sides of your iOS devices before your
>> terrorist-ing messages are sent! LOL
>>
>> -c
>>
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's bullshit. iMessage is not encrypted on Apple servers, which the
>> messages pass through. This is why iMessage isn't considered true "end to
>> end" crypto. There have been several papers written on this.
>>
>> On Feb 25, 2017 1:00 PM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope... iMessage is encrypted and not even Apple can read the messages.
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>> On 2/25/2017 11:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>>> Just like iMessage and Siri.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> bp
>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/25/2017 8:12 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well... if you
>>>>> use an Android phone that is... LOL
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/google-takes-on-apple-imessage-wit
>>>>> h-enhanced-sms-for-android-rcs/
>>>>>
>>>>> Travis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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