"Green complimented iMessage for using “end-to-end encryption” dating back to 2011, but unfortunately it appears as though Apple uses the term quite loosely. True end-to-end encryption would keep messaging conversations between only those participating internally. Apple’s protection of iMessage does not extend to the server, leaving a gap in its defenses."
Read more: http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/despite-apples-push-for-encryption-imessage-remains-insecure/#ixzz4ZjCRwCfI Follow us: @digitaltrends on Twitter <http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=a4WNn6KVyr4yHaacwqm_6r&u=digitaltrends> | DigitalTrends on Facebook <http://ec.tynt.com/b/rf?id=a4WNn6KVyr4yHaacwqm_6r&u=DigitalTrends> On Feb 25, 2017 1:43 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> wrote: > I see nothing in that article that says iMessages are stored unencrypted > on Apples servers, which is what you initial stated. > > I do see it state: "If a hacker were to take hold of the key server, they > would in turn be able to intercept messages as they are being typed — those > that have not already undergone the encryption process.” > > However, the same with anything using a key encryption. If someone has > your device key, wouldn’t they be able to decrypt your messages? > > > > On Feb 25, 2017, at 12:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > > http://www.digitaltrends.com/computing/despite-apples-push- > for-encryption-imessage-remains-insecure/ > > On Feb 25, 2017 1:35 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson" <c...@infowest.com> wrote: > >> I’m not sure I agree with that. Just reading up on this article from >> August of last year: >> >> http://www.tomshardware.com/news/imessage-weak-encryption-ma >> tthew-green,32466.html >> >> Couple of points from the article: >> >> - Undelivered messages *ARE* stored encrypted on Apples servers for up >> to 30 days. Sure someone with the appropriate key can decrypt them. That’s >> nothing new. >> - Cloud backups store your messages, they’re encrypted.. and supposedly >> Apple can decrypt them? Or not? If you’re a terrorist and/or extra >> paranoid, turn them off or use WhatsApp.. Oh wait, don’t they have a >> backdoor? :) >> - They say iMessage is “Not any better than normal TLS”.. well, it’s >> encrypted. Better than not! >> - From this it also appears Apple implemented most of their short-term >> vulnerability patches for old clients. >> >> I assume if both sides of the conversation are running the latest iOS >> version, then they’re much more “secure” than running older un-patched >> ones. >> Just be sure to patch both sides of your iOS devices before your >> terrorist-ing messages are sent! LOL >> >> -c >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2017, at 12:05 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >> That's bullshit. iMessage is not encrypted on Apple servers, which the >> messages pass through. This is why iMessage isn't considered true "end to >> end" crypto. There have been several papers written on this. >> >> On Feb 25, 2017 1:00 PM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote: >> >>> Nope... iMessage is encrypted and not even Apple can read the messages. >>> >>> Travis >>> >>> On 2/25/2017 11:47 AM, Bill Prince wrote: >>> >>>> Just like iMessage and Siri. >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> On 2/25/2017 8:12 AM, Travis Johnson wrote: >>>> >>>>> Now Google will be reading all of your text messages as well... if you >>>>> use an Android phone that is... LOL >>>>> >>>>> https://www.cnet.com/news/google-takes-on-apple-imessage-wit >>>>> h-enhanced-sms-for-android-rcs/ >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >