2 months down 10 to go. Thanks guys.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 4:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of
non-WISPnon-business related discussions
I sent $50. I really appreciate your doing this Paul.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/2/2017 3:04 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
OK folks, let’s crowd fund the list a bit. Just a few C notes will keep it
running for a year.
If you care to help out, PayPal your dirty socks, used tires and extra cash
to: pa...@pdmnet.net
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:46 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of
non-WISPnon-business related discussions
What paypal account do you want filled with money?
From: Paul McCall
Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2017 9:27 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Paul's SUMMARY: List topics and verboseness of non-WISP
non-business related discussions
My comment truly was NOT about cost. I GLADLY did this to support Chuck and
support the valued members that found the list a great resource. PDMNet wanted
to give back to the WISP community.
Just for the record, the list costs about $ 150 /month (varies slightly by
traffic) on an AWS server, plus $ 99 /month for medium priority support. I
could cut out the support probably because we haven’t needed it now for at
least 6 months. At the time, there was a LOT of setup, and I mean a LOT to
fully integrate properly with AWS. They are very particular to how email
flows, their API etc. We had this discussion early on, and I believe we made
the right decision. After the loooong setup, we haven’t deal with a server
based delivery issue in over a year. No getting blacklisted, no other drama.
We wanted simple and stable and relatively maintenance free. I love
maintenance free.
I love the light-hearted nature of the members and until the political season
came, the “extra stuff” didn’t phase me (or others). I absolutely LOVE hear
about Travis other business efforts, or stocks people are investing or anything
like that. That’s what USED TO BE labeled as OT: I wouldn’t want to filter
that. I love hearing what this groups other opinions are on a multitude of OT
subjects. On the flip side, I can’t stand the absolute garbage that gets
spewed (JMO) over and over… and over. We get it. You don’t like the
president AT ALL. You want to continue to trash him ALL the time. We get it.
We truly do. You have fully expressed yourself. You won’t change anybody’s
mind who does hatse the president or his policies. Ever. Move on. PLEASE.
JMO
As Forrest said, the better we get at running our business, the less
technical questions get asked and the group has a social feel. While it does
take just a while to delete the obvious junk by its title, it seems to creep
into many other “normal threads” also. The last 6 months, good contributing
members have become distant or gone completely. Some people do not want to
have to sort through the muck. Same reason I chose to never watch CNN or
FoxNews on TV. It’s mostly garbage. Sometimes people don’t complain. They
just go away. I chose to say something.
Chuck wants the list to be self-policing. Create a new subject header like
PRS: for blatantly Political, Religious, and Social) or something similar and
then we can truly filter that “stuff” so we never see it.
Paul
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2017 6:57 AM
To: Animal Farm mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] List topics and verboseness of non-WISP non-business
related discussions
I offered before to run it for free …. just saying .. and I know there were
others too …
Running mailing lists isn’t a major investment especially if you already have
the infrastructure (which I do)
Paul
On Mar 1, 2017, at 3:12 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
I agree. The list keeps me out of the bar. I know it's too far to drive
anyway, but it's my excuse. I would be happy to through in something to avoid
draining Paul's bank account. There are plenty of us. Couldn't be more than
$100/month each.
bp
On Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:09 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
I can two click delete emails from this list, last few weeks have been
utter garbage for sure.
What's the monthly cost of the list? I think those of us that have
benefited from it could throw a few bucks to help you out.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote:
I shared this with Chuck McCown, and he suggested I share this with the
list directly, so here goes.
Just FYI, in my normal business conversations with WISPs, I get one or
two people a week tell me they no longer look at the list because of all the
BS, politics, etc. I also don’t use AFMUG nearly as much as I used to because
of that.
While it costs me $$ for every email sent (I have never complained), AWS
is very solid and reliable, so it was a great choice. That’s not the point of
my comment.
People need to take that junk to some other venue, so we can focus on
important technology and business needs, IMO.
It probably won’t change but it’s my 2 cents.
Paul
Paul McCall, President
PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc.
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800
pa...@pdmnet.net
www.pdmnet.com
www.floridabroadband.com
