Thanks, and there will be some situations where noise levels on grounding 
systems are enough different from the noise on the data that the surge 
suppressor will activate.  But wow, that is a lot of noise.  We have the lowest 
capacitive loading of the data pairs on the market.  But again in a marginal 
situation, the suppressor could add enough NEXT or FEXT or loss or something to 
cause a problem.  

I have probably sold in excess of 100K of these units.  When there is a 
systemic design problem I hear about it right away from many parties.  

Generally we hear the odd one off now and then like this but nothing systemic.  

From: Brandon Yuchasz 
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:11 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

Chuck. Interesting timing on this item. Last night I stated typing an update to 
my epmp, gps, microtik, packetflux issue thread from a few weeks ago. I didn’t 
sent it because I wanted to do just one or two more tests before I “put it in 
the wild”. Ill go ahead and send it right now but still plan to do some more 
troubleshooting when I get to the site later this week and will send out a 
final update after that is done.

 

My network is also using MikroTik but is ePMP. Ill send it out.

 

 

Brandon

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 11:30 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

 

I would eliminate MT and see if problem goes away....Had grounding issues with 
them before... 

 

On Mar 7, 2017 10:10 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

I wouldn't assume it's the Mikrotik.



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Intelligent Computing Solutions

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From: "Jeremy" <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:04:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

I would point to a potential Mikrotik issue....as we do not use Mikrotik at 
all.  We use Cisco and Netonix.

 

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

We use the GIGE-POE-APC on 100% of our network infrastructure.  We have over 
100 APs, and countless backhauls running on these.  I have every flavor of UBNT 
running on these surge suppressors, and have never had a single issue.  We have 
AC gear, AirFibers, M-series, you name it.

 

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

I received the following from a distributor (from one of their customers)  this 
morning:

 

  We have some issues with their GigE suppressors with Mikrotik Routers and 
UBNT AC gear. Using the combination of the 3 we generate sever FCS errors on 
these links, which causes issues. If we bypass suppression, these links run 
clear and without issue.

 

I have not heard of this before.  We made some improvements that helped ePMP 
and 450 gear, but nothing like this.  Many times odd  issues like this are due 
to noise coming through the ground.  

 

I will attempt to replicate this once I know the exact gear to get.  I wish the 
customer would just loan me the gear with the problem but I don’t know who the 
customer is.  

 

 

 

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