We had made complaints prior and they never investigated us.

That’s how we knew the field agents already and trusted them.

Then they came in out of the blue with the weather radar stuff, and decided to 
make an example of us and several others in the area.

I know that wasn’t us interfering, but we did have UBNT gear that was 
demonstrably NOT changing channels per DFS norms.
To be fair to UBNT, we were way outside the defined weather radar zone per the 
FCC documentation.
But the FCC does whatever it likes with no ready means to contest their 
findings.

The only thing that got me off the hook on that was a letter that basically 
said, “That wasn’t true, please don’t fine me”.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 9:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

I remember when Doug Clark called them, they made him wish he had never called.
In your case, you weren’t the one making the complaint.  As I recall it was 
still a painful visit.

From: Sterling Jacobson
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:52 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Does the FCC even care about 5Ghz if it isn’t something major like weather 
radar interference?

I heard they were reduced in staff, so maybe they just show up for the big 
stuff like that and license violations and perhaps vendor violations for 5GHz.


From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, April 4, 2017 7:40 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

If you are totally squeaky clean.  But I hear they have very sneaky ways to 
write up even the cleanest company.

From: Mitch Koep
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 7:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot


It went great for us

the guys from the FCC were fantastic

On 04/04/2017 08:31 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
+1000000000
I would ask Doug Clark and Sterling Jacobsen before calling the FCC.

They always pick apart the person making the complaint first as a deterrent 
from ever doing it again.

From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 4:53 AM
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Maybe Ot

Paraphrased "Don't try to remove the spec form your neighbors eye with a log in 
yours"
The FCC will look at everything you have.  Check your gear three times before 
you make that call. And all of it, not just the site you are complaining about.
On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 10:25 PM Steve Jones 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
So, 5his douchecanoe contacted one of our landlords recently. The particular 
sight has been problematic for 5ghz lately. I'm familiar with the prick. I 
dealt with his nonsense last week. I'm norma)y ass hole level good steward of 
the spectrum, I never ever take more than I need even on the isp side,  I atpc 
where I can, I mount low where I can. I actually take this pretty seriously, I 
even cost myself a long link to the new rules even though I'm grandfathered, 
I'm spectrum  ocd that way.
This asshole, I got called by a buddy who mismanaged his time with a ptp650 set 
on a two hop bank link. The best I could do was a team viewer. I took care of 
the long link, which was locally shitty in 5.8. The license upgrade required a 
more current firmware. Of course it was 5.4 and cac so 8 had the local dick 
ride over to put it in 5.8 to come back up. This is a less than .1 mile link 
mind you.
The entire 5.4 is -50s. 5.2/3 the same. Apparently prickfuck hasn't upgrade has 
firmware enough to fuck 5.1 enough. I really only needed 10mhz of 5.1 to match 
the long link capacity, so I went to a 40 mhz channel out of spite.
The shit bag causing the noise  who is using massive spectrum on old firmware 
or "test" channels (this is verified by the number of times I've dealt with 
this prick second hand) is wanting to colicky with us. (He's a "cable" 
provider) I suspect 8s some sort of ghetto multistage almost all transmit. He 
has only talked to the boss not me. Said there is 160mhz, he'd be willing to 
split 80x80 with us, which fully indicates this douchefucks capability.
I just want to tell the boss to let him on (we do have sweet contracts with 
landlords that give us site ownership  of spectrum) just so I can call the fcc 
to get this prick some real fines. I do suspect he even hits weather radar, but 
I don't know.
Who do we contact with the fcc to snitch? I never have been in a position where 
there was as blatant of an abuse as this  tool that it's something I would ever 
have considered  but now I just want to set him up to bust him.



On a side note he says he uses cambium gear that can use it 160mhz spectrum in 
5g, does such a beast exist?


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Mitch Koep



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