In our area? Crap. There is not enough SNR, or even just good ol' S to get
any decent bandwidth through.
-bp
On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> How does the newer 900 MHz stuff get along with redwoods?
>
> *From:* Bill Prince
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:37 AM
> *To:* Motorola III
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
>
> There are at least a couple ways to do a "hybrid" system, depending on the
> situation.
>
> One is getting service to a remote community that is buried in trees. Use
> microwave to get to the neighborhood, and fiber to get around the
> neighborhood.
>
> The second is a neighborhood that isn't so "remote, and doesn't have that
> many trees. Use fiber to get to the neighborhood, and wireless to get the
> service around the neighborhood.
>
> We have a few neighborhood that are buried within a grove of 300' (plus)
> redwood trees. Impossible to get any decent kind of wireless service in
> those.
>
> However, we also have some of the second variety.
>
> -bp
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 10:10 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm thinking you put the AP on the utility pole.
>>
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: "Mitch Koep" <af...@abwisp.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 4/4/2017 12:18:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
>>
>> What happens if the house with AP quits service??
>>>
>>> You loose the rest that are connected ??
>>>
>>> Tried that did not go well LOL
>>>
>>> So now use power poles or small pipe masts (30 to 40')
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/04/2017 11:08 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, Utah...
>>>>
>>>> Like to hear reports from the rainy states.
>>>>
>>>> 60 GHz is .19" wavelength or about .095" half wave or .0475" quarter
>>>> wave.
>>>>
>>>> Rain drops can get up to .150" So they fall in the ranges of quarter to
>>>> full wave length sizes.
>>>>
>>>> Moreover they will serve as miniature dielectric lenses. And then
>>>> there is oxygen absorption and water absorption.
>>>> Even CO2, and fog causes problems.
>>>>
>>>> But should be noise free and you can certainly reuse frequencies all
>>>> over because it will not go far enough to interfere if done right.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Brett A Mansfield
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:59 AM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
>>>>
>>>> I have an Ignitenet PtP link that is half a mile that doesn't fade in
>>>> the rain. I'm sure it will if it gets really heavy. There has been rain,
>>>> but not heavy rain since I installed this link.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Brett A Mansfield
>>>>
>>>> On Apr 4, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Vivint and Google are both saying they are doing this. No idea what
>>>>> kid of radios they are using. I talked to a couple of Vivint locals at
>>>>> the
>>>>> AnimalFarm show. They both claim to be getting 1 Gbps at their home with
>>>>> the millimeter radio. I think it was 60 GHz. I asked them if it stays up
>>>>> during rain and snow. They claimed it did. Assuming the path was a
>>>>> quarter mile or less.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sterling Jacobson
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 9:47 AM
>>>>> To: 'af@afmug.com'
>>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] Current state of Hybrid Fiber/Wireless
>>>>>
>>>>> Where are we with this concept as a WISP industry?
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's say I have $200k to invest and already have mainline fiber in or
>>>>> near to the neighborhoods.
>>>>>
>>>>> What equipment do I buy to get the best speeds to residential and
>>>>> small business customers?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there equipment in the 60GHz or similar bands that are for
>>>>> sale/ready for use?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the topology still to connect a house or two in the area with fiber
>>>>> and LOS to everyone else and deploy PtMP?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> -- Mitch Koep
>>>
>>> A Better Wireless
>>> 218-851-8689 cell
>>>
>>>
>>
>
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