Thanks …

The model we tested was the ZTE H268A specifically … the answer for the DMTF 
tones was that there wasn’t anyone in North America using the voice portion yet 
and they could develop it but I was a bit shocked they would send it to us when 
only “half” of it works .. 

The unit wasn’t horrible or anything …. the UI was a bit flaky and stuff….. but 
when compared to others that we use today it just simply didn’t perform as well 
(short version)

Paul


> On Apr 15, 2017, at 7:06 PM, PE R <hillrunner...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Doesn't hurt to give the newer stuff a shot and possibly save some CAPEX.  :) 
>   (And the newer ZTE VDSL2 products are deployed and/or in trials along with 
> the G.fast products with operators throughout the US.)  
> 
> The DTMF tones are simply a matter of getting the software updated if the 
> product's going to be sold in the US.  ZTE's deployed by Tier 1s in EU along 
> APAC, etc. -- a couple of the analyst groups rank them as the #1 HGW vendor 
> worldwide.
> 
> Do you remember what RG you were using?  An ADSL RG?  Only a handful of 
> vendors did triple play on those products and they all had issues for the 
> first few years of the technology without naming names.
> 
> An ATA was typically -- for most ADSL RGs -- a separate device where the 
> triple play boxes had the FXS (analog) chip integrated into the system.  
> 
> Since everything on a PON system, outside of the customer LAN 
> (Wifi/POTS/GigE), is EMS based, the EMS is pretty much 1:1 with other systems 
> based on feedback since you're managing the L2/L3 network WAN traffic, the 
> PON and the PON & Layer 2 portion of the ONT.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
> To: af@afmug.com 
> Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?
> 
> Much prefer Adtran TA5000 stuff personally …. haven’t used ZTE for FTTH but 
> tested some of their other gear such as ATA combo modem (dsl) and ran into a 
> lot of grief with it.  It “feels” super cheap and the UI had a lot to be 
> desired (and simply lacked needed features like North American DTMF tones etc)
> 
> Calix I liked better when it was Occam …. newer stuff though (E7) I have 
> talked to several folks and they like it …
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2017, at 7:48 PM, PE R <hillrunner...@yahoo.com 
>> <mailto:hillrunner...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Or ZTE.  Just came away from the NTCA show and our products compete 
>> exceptionally well. 
>> 
>> Options include indoor ONT w/ BBU or outdoor.
>> 
>> 
>> From: Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>>
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> 
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 6:02 PM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?
>> 
>> Like to compare with outdoor ONT with a battery backed power supply at the 
>> home with 1 POTS line.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- 
>> From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
>> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 2:07 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?
>> 
>> Chuck,
>> 
>> On the OLT side it will vary depending on how many cards we put in the
>> cage and how many people we actually put on a port.
>> 
>> Best case fully populate cage with 32 users per port that will handle
>> 1792 customers about $34 per user.
>> 
>> In reality, a cage with 3 slots and an average of 25 users per port for
>> a total of about 600 users would be about $29 per user.
>> 
>> This does not include a 48v power plant to run the cage.  But as you
>> know the price per user on a port is not very much at all and slightly
>> varis based on density.
>> 
>> Hardware on the customer side for an ONT, BBU, splice case, etc.  Not
>> including labor or drop will range from a low of about $250 to about
>> $450 depending on if we use an indoor verses outdoor ONT, 2 vs 4 pots,
>> etc.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Mark                            mailto:m...@mailmt.com 
>> <mailto:m...@mailmt.com>
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>> Friday, April 14, 2017, 3:38:54 PM, you wrote:
>> 
>> cwc> Just like to compare apples to apples with Calix.
>> 
>> cwc> -----Original Message----- 
>> cwc> From: Mark - Myakka Technologies
>> cwc> Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 1:19 PM
>> cwc> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> cwc> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix E7-2 vs AdTran, Zhone, or?
>> 
>> cwc> Chuck,
>> 
>> cwc> not personally.  Those numbers are available to me.  I've been so
>> cwc> busy lately, I haven't had time to look at them.  I know the numbers
>> cwc> are reasonable.  We are about 4 months from finishing the project we
>> cwc> are working on now.  When that is done, I'm going to sit down and
>> cwc> compare estimated to actual.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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