That's what I would worry about. More connections, and questions about the quality of same,

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On 4/28/2017 7:48 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
The amount of exposed wire looks appropriate for a punchdown. They also left the twists intact all the way in. I do wonder how the "piggy back" jack stays secure in the punchdown block. Will the weight of a hanging patch cord try to pull it out over time?


------ Original Message ------
From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: 4/28/2017 10:31:02 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Clip On RJ45 Jacks for Punchdown Blocks?

It is cutting corners. Youre adding another layer of points of failure using non standard components. Think about the dumbest tech you've ever met. Imagine you had to hire him for whatever reason and there were an after the fact issue here and you sent him to troubleshoot, would you be able to walk him through it? even if that's Cat5, that exposed cable alone ends that specification, in all likelihood youre going to have gigabit, likely POE if its phones, potentially passthrough VLANs hanging PCs off the phones. So then youre putting stuff that technically requires Cat6 specs on sub Cat5 installation. Troubleshoot that, no thanks. I'm dealing with a similar issue right now, somebody cut just a little corner on every step of an installation for us, now there are so many variables I have to go up and redo the entire shooting match just to get things to a point I can start troubleshooting, though I doubt the problem will even still exist.

In the long run, youre costing the customer more. In this scenario I would ask the customer directly "When do you want to pay? Now or later, because you will pay. And how much lost productivity do you want because stuff is just acting weird?"


On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 8:58 AM, Christopher Gray <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I've seen RJ45 jacks that plug right onto punchdown blocks. I'm
    about to convert this wiring to Ethernet for VoIP. Can I take the
    easy way out, remove the jumpers, and install the piggy-back
    jacks, or should I really pull it all and punch it back down on a
    proper patch panel?

    Don't want to cut corners, but if re-punching the whole lot can
    be avoided, it would help cut the customer cost.



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