Pinkerton, that’s right. I use a local company called Pilkington. Got
confused.
I find it interesting that Carnegie’s story somewhat parallels Bill Gates 100
years later.
Disruptive technology, moves to deploy nationwide, going public etc. Huge game
changer for business in industry by both guys.
From: Cameron Crum
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 3:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
Actually it wasn't Carnegie, it was his right hand man Henry Frick who was a
ruthless SOB. Carnegie was largely hands off at the time and Frick was really
running the show, although Carnegie did know what was happening. Frick made the
decision to bring in the Pinkerton's to break the strike and it went poorly
with deaths on both sides. While the incident did cause a rift between Carnegie
and Frick, I think is was the Johnstown Flood that Carnegie felt most guilty
about even though it wasn't his direct action that caused it, and I think a lot
of the blame was due to decisions made by Frick. I know this mostly because one
of my best friends is married to Frick's great granddaughter. Interesting
family history.
On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 12:04 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
One could argue that a management shooting employees that wanted to organize
or strike has resulted in our current internet...
This is the logic:
Andrew Carnegie hired Pilkington guards to control or suppress a labor
uprising. Can't remember if it was a strike or organizing activities. One of
the Pilkington guys shot and killed one of Carnegies employees.
He was wracked with guilt for the rest of his life and attempted to atone for
the act by building many free libraries across the nation. those libraries
undoubtedly were critical in the launching of careers of many in science and
industry. Probably some NASA guys in there.
So, shoot an employee and get men on the moon, which led to the internet.
Simple.
-----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Friday, April 28, 2017 10:50 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] installer hire / training process.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely... It goes both
ways and always will.. But rarely have union employees had crews
shoot management.. Back in the 1910-1920 era, that was _not_ true the
other way around... Now there were cases of unions shooting their OWN
people to get non-unionized groups to unionize...
On 04/28/2017 09:13 AM, Larry Smith wrote:
When unions were a "shield" for the workers to protect and
garner better conditions they were reasonable; once they
turned into the "club" to beat management and companies
into doing their will they became despickable (IMO).
