Eventually you run out of space for them :)

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From: "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 5/21/2017 12:29:08 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

Yea...i lean towards putting mow batteries in with the money you would have spent on a genset.


On Sun, May 21, 2017, 9:50 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
You can always 100% rely on a standby generator not starting when you need it the most.

From:Jesse Dupont
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 7:02 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module
Well, that is a concern. I think we'll be under 30A after all is said and done and the DR-UPS40 handles 40A. Downside would be the 2A charging rate. I should note this site will have an automatic standby generator so we won't need a huge battery string.

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Gino A. Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2017 4:47:19 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

How do you plan to connect to batteries for this setup ?

From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Jesse Dupont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Date: Saturday, May 20, 2017 at 7:07 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

The Meanwell SDR-480P-24 and -48 do current sharing so you can stack up to 8 of those in parallel to have a lot of capacity and N+1 redundancy without the DR-RDN20 redundancy module.

We're getting ready to do a four unit N+1 at a site that has 16-17 Amps already and is getting some LTE base stations added to it.

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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of George Skorup <george.sko...@cbcast.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2017 4:55:25 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24V Battery Revert and Charge Module

List price on the BCMU360 is about $215 IIRC. I think we pay about $175 from PSUI. Plus $15 for the temp probe.

Are you asking run time? I have a couple with 40Ah of battery attached. A few with about 90W load have ran for over four hours, but they never went down, utility came back. A couple others with ~190-220W. Lost utility at one of the sites the other day. It was running for about an hour and a half before I brought a portable gen out. That site didn't go down either. Couldn't let it, too much traffic. And of course utility came back 15 minutes after I got the generator going.




Gino A. Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

On 5/20/2017 4:51 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
How much are you paying for the Traco and how long does it last?

On 5/20/17, 4:44 PM, "Af on behalf of George Skorup" <af-boun...@afmug.com

ï¿1Ž2

Gino A. Villarini

PresidentMetro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

on behalf of george.sko...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>Mean Well AD-155B
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 + DR-UPS40
>or
>Mean Well SDR-240-24 (or 48) + Traco BCMU360 (jumper selectable for 24 >or 48) - I use this combo most often. The BCMU360 is only good for ~240W
>continuous.
>
>All this stuff is fine until you start looking to deploy things that are
>power hungry like 450m's @ 70W, LTE eNB's that pull 60-100W each,
>multiple AF24s or licensed radios, etc. Then you need big-boy
>rectifiers, which aren't all that expensive, but they aren't cheap
>either. Add good telco-grade batteries on top and it's easily 10x the
>cost of what we're used to with the smaller stuff.
>
>On 5/20/2017 1:16 PM, Matt wrote:
>> What is everyone using for switching from AC to battery backup at sites?
>>
>> I normally have our other guy take care of that part.ï¿1Ž2 But we normally >> have a DIN mount 24V power supply, a DIN mount packetflux site monitor
>> that monitors power supply output and battery voltage and some DIN
>> mount module that does charging and switching between the two.ï¿1Ž2 Also
>> have a 24V to 48V converter to power our 450i etc stuff.
>>
>> Monitor the site monitor with SNMP and start emailing alarms if power >> supply voltage drops.ï¿1Ž2 Also graph power supply and battery voltage
>> with MRTG.
>>
>> Curious what others are using here?
>

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