Same as any other ePMP, IIRC.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 8:32:09 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF What kind of throughput do you get with those? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:56 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF One vote for Force180 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On May 23, 2017 8:21 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < fai...@snappytelecom.net > wrote: FWIW...... the situation described is the exact scenario for a Micro-POP. There are a number of folks who are currently doing such a setup with 60ghz or 24ghz as backhaul and Mimosa A5's for 5ghz PTMP... expected thruput is between 150meg to 300meg easily. Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net <blockquote> From: "Harold Bledsoe" < hbledso...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:26:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF <blockquote> How about 60ghz to the first house and 5ghz to the second house and run Trill to create a ring? Does using multiple new technologies instead of just one make it seem less risky? š Hal On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:47 PM Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: <blockquote> Scared of new technology. Seems a bit too long range for that freq. Worried about not enough time has elapsed to prove them out. They sound expensive. Everybody knows 60 GHz is all absorbed by the oxygen anyhow... Not sure God would approve... You all the same normal reasons... From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:44 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF For so little throughput a 5GHz setup would be the cheapest and probably best setup. What keeps you from being a believer of the 60GHz? I can show you the history of some of my Ignitenet links that may just change your mind. Thank you, Brett A Mansfield On May 22, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: <blockquote> Not a believer yet. And we only need 100-250 Mbps max to the homes. Actually probably more like 50 or 100 Mbps. Want it to be simple too. ONT has multiple ethernet ports on it. Just extend those physical layer 0/1 connections. </blockquote> <blockquote> From: Cameron Crum Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:34 PM To: af@afmug.com </blockquote> <blockquote> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF </blockquote> <blockquote> What about a couple of 60GHz links with a single 5GHz AP as a backup? We did this for a bank that needed to connect two buildings temporarily. Put a MT on either side that ran IPSEC tunnel over the link with a failover script to route traffic over the 5 GHz link if the 60 lost more than 50% of it's packets. The 5 GHz was slower, but they still had connectivity in the even of a heavy rain. </blockquote> <blockquote> On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: <blockquote> Still puzzling over how to get ethernet the last 3000 feet. I have fiber to a point along a rural road. The end is about 2000 feet from one home and 3000 feet from another. Was looking at using the existing copper with VDSL line extenders. That was what that week of math problems was all about. I am starting to lean away from that solution because it is old copper. I really want to stop using it. I donāt have a ROW that is legal. The old copper technically is in trespass and the owner of the property is known to be a major PITA. So not sure if I can get permission. Even then, we are talking about 5000 feet of fiber to place. There will be some money involved. Using wireless could be much cheaper. Will have to do a solar install with the ONT and RF gear on a stub pole at the handhole. Not sure what kid of RF. Donāt want to use an AP because I need two layer 2 connections from the ONT. Be more expensive to use an AP anyhow. So two PTP systems. Rock solid, never fail type of system. Noise floor down there is probably pretty low. I could use a pair of rockets etc. Not wanting to lo-ball this, want it to be very solid. What would you use? </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- Harold Bledsoe </blockquote> </blockquote>