What kind of throughput do you get with those?

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

One vote for Force180


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On May 23, 2017 8:21 AM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:

  FWIW...... the situation described is the exact scenario for a Micro-POP.

  There are a number of folks who are currently doing such a setup with 60ghz 
or 24ghz as backhaul and Mimosa A5's for 5ghz PTMP... expected thruput is 
between 150meg to 300meg easily.

  Regards.

  Faisal Imtiaz
  Snappy Internet & Telecom
  7266 SW 48 Street
  Miami, FL 33155
  Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

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    From: "Harold Bledsoe" <hbledso...@gmail.com>
    To: af@afmug.com
    Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 6:26:37 AM
    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF

    How about 60ghz to the first house and 5ghz to the second house and run 
Trill to create a ring? 

    Does using multiple new technologies instead of just one make it seem less 
risky? šŸ˜

    Hal

    On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 3:47 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

      Scared of new technology. 
      Seems a bit too long range for that freq.
      Worried about not enough time has elapsed to prove them out. 
      They sound expensive.
      Everybody knows 60 GHz is all absorbed by the oxygen anyhow...
      Not sure God would approve...

      You all the same normal reasons...

      From: Brett A Mansfield
      Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:44 PM
      To: af@afmug.com
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF
      For so little throughput a 5GHz setup would be the cheapest and probably 
best setup.

      What keeps you from being a believer of the 60GHz? I can show you the 
history of some of my Ignitenet links that may just change your mind.

      Thank you, 
      Brett A Mansfield

      On May 22, 2017, at 12:38 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:


        Not a believer yet.  And we only need 100-250 Mbps max to the homes.  
Actually probably more like 50 or 100 Mbps. 
        Want it to be simple too.  ONT has multiple ethernet ports on it.  Just 
extend those physical layer 0/1 connections. 

        From: Cameron Crum
        Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:34 PM
        To: af@afmug.com
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] extending fiber with RF
        What about a couple of 60GHz links with a single 5GHz AP as a backup? 
We did this for a bank that needed to connect two buildings temporarily. Put a 
MT on either side that ran IPSEC tunnel over the link with a failover script to 
route traffic over the 5 GHz link if the 60 lost more than 50% of it's packets. 
The 5 GHz was slower, but they still had connectivity in the even of a heavy 
rain. 

        On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

          Still puzzling over how to get ethernet the last 3000 feet.  I have 
fiber to a point along a rural road.  The end is about 2000 feet from one home 
and 3000 feet from another.

          Was looking at using the existing copper with VDSL line extenders.  
That was what that week of math problems was all about.  I am starting to lean 
away from that solution because it is old copper.  I really want to stop using 
it.

          I donā€™t have a ROW that is legal.  The old copper technically is in 
trespass and the owner of the property is known to be a major PITA.  So not 
sure if I can get permission.  Even then, we are talking about 5000 feet of 
fiber to place.  There will be some money involved.

          Using wireless could be much cheaper.  Will have to do a solar 
install with the ONT and RF gear on a stub pole at the handhole. 

          Not sure what kid of RF.  Donā€™t want to use an AP because I need two 
layer 2 connections from the ONT.  Be more expensive to use an AP anyhow.  So 
two PTP systems.  Rock solid, never fail type of system.   Noise floor down 
there is probably pretty low. 
          I could use a pair of rockets etc.  Not wanting to lo-ball this, want 
it to be very solid. 

          What would you use?

    -- 

    Harold Bledsoe


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