Good luck. Even this list (which is supposed to be technical) is acting
like a 70 year old man hearing that devil's rock and roll for the first
time.

- Josh

On May 26, 2017 7:40 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Let's be sure to delineate Kodi from the illegal content plugins.
>
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> *From: *"Steve Jones" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, May 26, 2017 7:38:31 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
>
> FYI, kodi has been hit, the subtitles were hijacked to inject malicious
> voodoo.
> I use kodi, with exodus for programs I like
> its illegal
> amazon banned them, they will literally destroy your inventory
> facebook banned them
> google is looking at how to ban them
> I just got a raspberry pi 3 to make a dedicated kodi box, I bought a half
> price chineese, one, its a knockoff, probably already infected with
> something I cant remove, but does it matter when I'm putting an app to do
> illegal stuff with on it?
>
> If somebody says firestick, assume theyre running kodi, and several
> preloaded addons
>
> kodi is a great avenue for distributed computing (bitcoin mining), botnet,
> general IOT fuckery.
>
> kodi is and always should be a zero support ISP issue, enforce your AUP
> TOS immediately, they either don't know what theyre doing... or they do,
> and I'm not sure which person is more of a threat to your netblock
> reputation. The EU will ultimately block your netblock, theyre not messing
> around with kodi, and they have some sort of magic to be able to
> specifically identify kodi traffic, my guess is they have an algorithm to
> identify aggregator traffic
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org>
> wrote:
>
>> A lot of the free content comes from pawned servers and computers that
>> are on high speed links …. the paid services are typically dedicated
>> servers rented with flat rate bandwidth … at least with that I’ve figured
>> out ...
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
>> *Sent:* Friday, May 26, 2017 2:53 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
>>
>> Who is paying for all this bandwidth that the *servers* are providing for
>> "ill-legitimate" content?
>>
>> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Mark - Myakka Technologies <
>> m...@mailmt.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Here is the link I was talking about
>>
>> http://blog.skystreamx.com/fix-kodi-buffering/
>>
>>
>>
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>> *------Thursday, May 25, 2017, 10:52:39 PM, you wrote:*
>>
>> Kurt,
>>
>> I read somewhere that kodi needs about 10-15meg connection to work
>> correctly.  Not sure if that was for live tv or everything.  Think I have
>> the article bookmarked at the office.  I'll check in the morning and post
>> it if I find it.
>>
>>
>>
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>> *------Thursday, May 25, 2017, 12:50:45 PM, you wrote:*
>>
>> I am getting more and more calls every week from clients saying that
>> their "streaming isn't working." Upon investigating each one of these cases
>> the customer always has purchased a "jailbroken" firestick loaded with KODI
>> and they are expecting to watch all kinds of movies for free. From what I
>> can tell this is very un-reliable compared to just paying for Netflix.
>> Sometimes the streams work and sometimes they don't. I basically have been
>> telling customers that what their doing is no different than the old
>> satellite days where people put the hacked cards into their set top boxes
>> and get all the satellite channels for free. But those cards were always
>> getting "zapped" and you were constantly having to get new cards and
>> re-program cards so your spending so much time dealing with the
>> "un-reliable' TV watching experience that it would have just been cheaper
>> to pay for the service legally in the first place. My solution for these
>> customers has been to just tell them to pay $10 for Netflix and be done
>> with it.
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:02 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> haven't been able to reach him yet.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From: *Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:26 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
>>
>> Why don't you ask him?
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:21 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> out of the 250 or so "warnings" received through this morning, about 80%
>> appear to be tv shows and random episodes of such tv shows.  that is why i
>> was thinking kodi.  perhaps he browsed around just to see what would work
>> and what wouldn't.  i've never played with kodi but if this guy has this
>> volume of entertainment on his hard drive i would be surprised and would
>> say he has no life.  plus he has been a customer for a while - he isn't
>> anyone new.... :)
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From: *Tim Reichhart <timreichh...@hometowncable.net>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 25, 2017 9:18 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
>>
>> with kodi you can download/add on for like utorrent to download movies or
>> you can also download exodus.
>> ------------------------------
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Joe Novak" <jno...@lrcomm.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Date: 05/25/17 10:14 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] kodi?
>>
>> To be honest, unless he is using some odd P2P addon for Kodi it's
>> unlikely. Most of the addons comb the net for the videos and aggregate the
>> links for you to watch on Kodi - which means your not sharing it back. Some
>> kind of popcorn time variant which is built on bittorrent is more likely,
>> but I don't know if any of those still exist.
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
>> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> we have a customer who literally has gotten no fewer than 150 complaints
>> from both fox and ip-echelon ? (sp) in the last 24 hours.
>> either he has downloaded half the internet or perhaps he has one of these
>> new illegal kodi boxes.
>>
>> some of you with more experience than us in dealing with this - is it
>> likely he has a kodi box? The alerts seem almost in real time
>> but then again, they also seem to be coming after we turned his service
>> off....
>>
>> I know there is a safe harbor provision out there where we could
>> basically put on our website any copyright violations must be delivered
>> to us in writing and we could basically ignore these.....but we haven't
>> gotten that many in the past.
>>
>> thoughts?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>
>>
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