If you bored say 20 or 30 feet under the floor, would you still have floating issues?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 9:38:54 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 1.25” is fine, but it will float. On a water crossing you will need cinder blocks every 10 feet or so to hold it down. Chop a hole out of one of the sides large enough so the duct can slip inside one of the cavities. From: Chris Fabien Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 7:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] private community fiber network 7. You don't need that large of duct for this, 1" or 1.25" at the most would be sufficient. Expect to pay around 0.25 per ft for 1" and 0.35 per ft for 1.25", ballpark numbers. 8. If it's going to all be in conduit, I would use 12F drop cable instead of "normal" loose tube cable. Actually on a project like this I would just direct bury the 12F drop with a small drop plow everywhere possible to save money. 9. We get some nice 17x30x15" HDPE Carson handholes from Milennium in the $70 range. I think they have a smaller size yet for around $40. 9a. NOPE... I actually tried this, it was a dismal failure. It's hard to make strong, thin, concrete sections. On Wed, Jun 21, 2017 at 12:32 AM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: adding to list: 7: 2-4 in duct, good price vendors, preference is mutilple innerduct 8. appropriate general purpose fiber for this type of project vendor 9. good price vendor for handholes 9a. would it just be cheaper to form a bunch of handholes and get concrete at 80 bucks a yard On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 10:03 PM, Steve Jones < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > wrote: <blockquote> A few questions, this being a family estate property that was subdivided into different lots. There are 8 current homes, haven't looked at a platt map yet to see how the lots are legally divided, so there is that. This is about interconnecting and somewhere in the mix bringing in interwebs. To run past all the current lots is roughly 8050 feet. There would be 4 "fingers" the longest being 3300 feet, passing 3 houses with the longest distance between those 3 being 1400 feet, 300 feet of this would be underwater. This is not a ROW, issue, they don't want it in ROW, I assume they need some sort of legal easement on record for the duct. I know zero about this. Here are some questions: 1. the underwater part. is that normally duct or just underwater fiber. 1a. this pond is stocked by DNR, does that require some crummy permit to drop fiber into even though its privately owned, I don't know what the trade off is for DNR stocking. 2. When passing a lot, do you normally put a handhole in each lot? 3. if a utility ROW is crossed, does that need a permit? 4. Whats the specific terminology, I think its easement, that makes the duct accessible, like ROW, legally even if the property changes hands 5. How does one get this buried cable/duct into a location service database 5.a when a locate is called in who pays? (USIC is the locating agency around here) 6.how much longer will this list of questions get before it gets too hard In this instance, it will all be cut trench, that's free, for them. This is all unincorporated land in a county. however there has been a history of forced incorporation attempts. should that happen, what happens with this duct? assuming there is some chatter on this, anticipate more detailed questions on tech specs </blockquote>
